220 41234 <36e9388e-9b8d-4c93-9a0a-bedfb00c135f@isocpp.org> article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Victor Dyachenko Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Modules and preambule, just why? 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I'm talking about Gaby's/VC++ implementation. Do they use different approach now? A there any people here aware of gcc/clang approach? And if XPR is enough to represent modules interface files (is it?), can't it be standardized at least in theory? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/36e9388e-9b8d-4c93-9a0a-bedfb00c135f%40isocpp.org. ------=_Part_730_104171009.1544162224073 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
IIRC initially modules were based on some sort of high-lev= el C++ AST representation - XPR (https://parasol.tamu.edu/pivot/publication= s/user-guide.pdf). I'm talking about Gaby's/VC++ implementation. Do= they use different approach now? A there any people here aware of gcc/clan= g approach? And if XPR is enough to represent modules interface files (is i= t?), can't it be standardized at least in theory?

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