220 41090 article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Balog Pal Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: d1193 (Unpublished) - Explicit Return Types for (Implicit) Conversions Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 04:38:28 -0800 (PST) Lines: 57 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <331d08dc-54ad-4681-abe8-986b66bf354a@isocpp.org> <6d5ed13d-c31a-4218-88b0-e0dd4bef3f72@isocpp.org> <55f4ba50-6b86-4f65-858a-754c347cdeb9@isocpp.org> <947f5ce9-161f-4c16-b173-9b36476a137e@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1725_2113299995.1543322308577" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543322186 1968 195.159.176.226 (27 Nov 2018 12:36:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:36:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBDXOZDWV5QORBRPV6TPQKGQEWRRNMOQ@isocpp.org Tue Nov 27 13:36:22 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f200.google.com ([209.85.219.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRcbE-0000Po-Jf for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:36:20 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f200.google.com with SMTP id u14-v6sf13221926ybi.3 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 04:38:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=QTHyHfOadwJxOjY8c9yNkBxslvih8HHf0TR45grLWQY=; b=jbDgPERJhmCPemXUhCIv5Osi2n4HDbK4QyflQrQl46nFlq1B/7fp81hEIjihV6ApyU y/8d/qa/sieUZ8g4ftQ8Nr9UdiwKaaf7Rpw8BbY6KZ5HkGRFQJTpfAxGTOexUFl53qf+ TOtcgXOZfZlDmkHgoD6YBlCp+LQlyicTN0B3SZdGR0au31cBk6YvmwdsrVf/Y9vPCcgq s41820qU6TWuuexvk860d9xMchi+pHEbnQiczKD28TNqUimKvaMZP6o2pN5S4w6teo+7 i/wBf0uwWen879z22/XtXCJKifHtA1s4k0Kwl34Yo0ocXWF5s1fBZZug8HBMLatWbZV9 cquw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=QTHyHfOadwJxOjY8c9yNkBxslvih8HHf0TR45grLWQY=; b=n81dp9a/cXGYB3uXocOPVeT8DKmsMFUjOnNfDOI+rVKb5zUcYocBV3B6H9CQuAt0do sMJ/7H7UNgP+B3SWR9FT08D0cAVMRg/cz3t/O9LVgbjqyiK1kzruSXgdKTNo2/Vvyr9S dfPQ69FGOoUOAGqVphksd7pvkCuVejjyYlUpyTrOx4Exib9S6z7b1+4KdosMv/KTQAUV sNCDHYsQZJkk1s15PiftK+D59olTSlWTDzVrBUakZiDnzKZ4ONs4kkqwCq01Fts8G+gC 6Zo2QahFDCbAGOx+DDdaKfNFeFmZK3GiaxZtTu+1S/kzXNIyKV7F+GZKsPPVTBTG/gr/ 9vFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbU4VWx5XhEkNVWgzpmns0XStxkCc/aWSIMcBQMwTfA2FpIpJ0f NPAb9Gzsvxo468Vr9IzAP7v/+w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XV8oD5CGPuH3189/P7atuwchsDlDw1FuNEEMSJGjjO3Vic+e2gYmikHTSqnpJS3mNrgaRb+Q== X-Received: by 2002:a81:9897:: with SMTP id p145mr208796ywg.18.1543322310776; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 04:38:30 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 2002:a0d:d3c3:: with SMTP id v186-v6ls13262915ywd.9.gmail; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 04:38:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a0d:dd4e:: with SMTP id g75mr7789ywe.5.1543322309260; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 04:38:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <947f5ce9-161f-4c16-b173-9b36476a137e@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: pasa@lib.hu Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:41090 Archived-At: ------=_Part_1725_2113299995.1543322308577 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1726_1380416762.1543322308578" ------=_Part_1726_1380416762.1543322308578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Now I read the actual paper too (and it is really nice)... just as other say, you absolutely need to start with a REAL LIFE problem that is PITA and get solved by this proposal. You did cover the technical ground and I'm sure you can iron out the nits like multiple conversion chain, but I'm quite sure that the general reaction would be "yeah, it can be done but why the ... should we bother". C++ has many clients and adds features that serve the mass, not unicorns. The resources are allocated accordingly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/f7e777e1-3662-48bc-a0f4-7cee7d599341%40isocpp.org. ------=_Part_1726_1380416762.1543322308578 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now I read the actual paper too (and it is really nic= e)... just as other say, you absolutely need to start with a REAL LIFE prob= lem that is PITA and get solved by this proposal. You did cover the technic= al ground and I'm sure you can iron out the nits like multiple conversi= on chain, but I'm quite sure that the general reaction would be "y= eah, it can be done but why the ... should we bother".=C2=A0=C2=A0

C++ has many clients and adds features that serv= e the mass, not unicorns. The resources are allocated accordingly.

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