220 41008 <46ea9857-ee43-49d0-9bd5-9ca4075c414e@isocpp.org> article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Edward Catmur Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Can we have beginner friendly new line and deprecate std::endl? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:26:54 -0800 (PST) Lines: 19 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <46ea9857-ee43-49d0-9bd5-9ca4075c414e@isocpp.org> References: Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_622_1912918181.1542155214468" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542155094 856 195.159.176.226 (14 Nov 2018 00:24:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 00:24:54 +0000 (UTC) To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBDZLZTXF7UJBBT6XVXPQKGQESL4NGDI@isocpp.org Wed Nov 14 01:24:50 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-yw1-f72.google.com ([209.85.161.72]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gMiz9-0008Ua-5B for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 01:24:47 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-yw1-f72.google.com with SMTP id j186-v6sf4490001ywj.1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:26:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=YqdqjQ7u8y6CgG0X7H8G0R/meua9S3OGzQ9RjL2+gDU=; b=oaxAcTzCfzLvT3VKf9uMkA/48jLaTUndavW986RIm1DZ3tJZpO5roeRRgxuLfhsUri 1OVFkmFFNIsjqjy/0t2eptP7e7zaVa1cFgsGdQXM5kLLYy651mhoa2Uqo5e1X/Jxng7V 5eNprqe6GY7wOwUFeFwXoGpnBlHJ1QlYkxKBVe78lxz3rNxB4EVRII77NfErJag8iWHh gQ6NvHv8IYdXUw0fuhwjEU2IAyY/itsrzcrsr2zhtTSEm+jzTF0IN9P9FfK8nVqNpf+w qYVZuOEp5FtSsVHdgCxSvnNGAjOJCBqRC+rLveW0QviXef9QXn5YqO5MYelR2ldRcEri +REA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=YqdqjQ7u8y6CgG0X7H8G0R/meua9S3OGzQ9RjL2+gDU=; b=RASFHz1f+Q37CC1LL9U5ZZfOXIjHXnU5O9LhYjQB70nbkgW+3JMsDqtWz2NEf6M+1R DXTSX4Ms1jBA/5sZpwfkzfqu7qdLQG63tfdtDnqg//5sGpsbo7+Qgud2Sw53nYMHM5ZE 11wh3o9x7rVTZSndM6elN6J3hhBCkLCl9yGy999RWf1r6cO8vTylL5JcrVR3AnV3cP7v 81TAVPzTC8WmPGBgYOaWlIWY0YRlQN3DP0FE86/KgyvKpI/daB17EQBT7h7hs0WkG5Pg Kx0z0Xkr/Kq5h9AcoP3HjeYtLZMIQH7r2faypnFi1LQAWhq/3WuKdvPQhoabiCBx3fAX jIWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJaEhHXC4i+u+b0QdTptSAB+2MNRWnQPy/R6J41fZjsmy8zDT10 GXXp9Y8gPwdHmqjvCny1+2IsEw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eIfwoTOUvXT8VdvxLqs/s4rFvVUbTkiy/NBsFmm2QksYHSHdEycbvZgF3BUuOEIIjlw555Nw== X-Received: by 2002:a25:9b84:: with SMTP id v4-v6mr3513404ybo.48.1542155217313; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:26:57 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 2002:a81:3081:: with SMTP id w123-v6ls2996772yww.11.gmail; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:26:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a81:27cd:: with SMTP id n196mr8965ywn.2.1542155215377; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:26:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: ed@catmur.co.uk Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:41008 Archived-At: ------=_Part_622_1912918181.1542155214468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Start them out with raw strings, then. std::cout << R"(hello world )"; Escape characters can wait till a later lesson, once they're happy with getting a program to produce output. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/46ea9857-ee43-49d0-9bd5-9ca4075c414e%40isocpp.org. ------=_Part_622_1912918181.1542155214468-- .