220 40700 article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: pasa@lib.hu Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: Procedure for proposal submission Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 73 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <5c35e7ea-08ef-48bb-81eb-f8596e5c94fb@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1476_2040460795.1540387400490" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1540387278 17861 195.159.176.226 (24 Oct 2018 13:21:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: marius.bancila@visma.com To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBDXOZDWV5QORBSPEYHPAKGQETP5VVYA@isocpp.org Wed Oct 24 15:21:13 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f199.google.com ([209.85.219.199]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gFJ61-0004XM-0g for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:21:13 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f199.google.com with SMTP id e73-v6sf3018140ybb.16 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:23:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=pTDkxX4peQT9uX7JjkoLUQVF8Js+3Oi36bgFP3l2Fdk=; b=O+jUUscNtPtp1/yXJAymAgzvTGdA6ukQ26S6ydSe0r65jWnKshM1xJW22sNCb6BTfo nlgGr0rSjEOhGd1U6pOX4FC/i+vZ79vOPtwdSVRUmV8WKT7hK49iEIiyHBLXant7Jqdf bZMw4zh65ppGBLUd8V7UqnfWzYcDDFCo8frhpxVph6/bt7lK1xdRHSV5h1MIjHRBFYAD CCQOuPed/gh5+HqIeTaeIoq0XwmXMr9ULPbTiqbQZ1vYR6OuVBtw0d0HF5I88IE3ID00 JPTAfHQfPX9awEc1ZbawltakLb3ozGT3wDNgAJYwtnR884dWGlkvWizPDiC7BuOtGLfe 1Kbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=pTDkxX4peQT9uX7JjkoLUQVF8Js+3Oi36bgFP3l2Fdk=; b=RqNKdJiadgbHbb+p2uVFBzQ2VmYQILP3sua97qJREAIjff5T7eS8NPadf6YjvCmUci trh+r9Sqtk9mZ5oP/QCvFqTRu43//QpW/3ML7x16w1VaWKH9wiKUEYO3y/l+iV2eHBDl YymqEFELFbuCCL3ojGIUpG+b8RQ50z+vxu7+ly9q3rVJZVblfbAt3MhZ6eh/i6WHpfqq DOrNLJTAxlpgnTEqMLekQFy8OfOZ78Jp5ckTrIcHUEuITIUAuR/ps8sEsb1dlq6SfBCi F+AHCOrQhh9iudJ8Z6jTq3zcYJXIXAfEsS0uVQimSkjrcjUznfugtIiiNEwGQo48NtWb u1tg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJed1sDuxe4eGRzDajvjZ2W74tK1Kre12PP6TODUrUGNyN3g9wR dYZymyCMY9Pz9AGVr/LYv3wMVg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fo3u0zo/Sn/W0RcrMeUtSOmUEEomTqCBkGccFj9q/tZTzWXUuQEi66CNpEEHdMyQh9gjVbbw== X-Received: by 2002:a81:b248:: with SMTP id q69-v6mr1401946ywh.0.1540387403199; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 2002:a25:34d1:: with SMTP id b200-v6ls2423854yba.8.gmail; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:23:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:3385:: with SMTP id z127-v6mr36789ybz.4.1540387401223; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:23:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: pasa@lib.hu Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:40700 Archived-At: ------=_Part_1476_2040460795.1540387400490 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1477_1336817743.1540387400490" ------=_Part_1477_1336817743.1540387400490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The C++ committee has been around for a long time; unfortunately, our infrastructure hasn't aged or scaled as well as we might have hoped. > > > We are actively working on improving C++ standardization infrastructure. > I have to agree with OP that the information on the site is only half helpful. I suggest to add Arthur's excellent answer to the submit-a-proposal page or place it right after. While at it links to some moral documents created recently could be added, like Bjarne's Remember the Wasa. Along with quote from D&E where the old policy was to require each submission also donate a kidney. If the current somewhat obscure path is intentional to deter half-baked papers and general flood, it's not really working looking at just the most recent list of submissions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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The C++ committee has been around for a long time; unfortu= nately, our infrastructure hasn't aged or scaled as well as we might ha= ve hoped.

We are actively working on impro= ving C++ standardization infrastructure.

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I have to agree with OP that the information on the site is only = half helpful. I suggest to add Arthur's excellent answer to the submit-= a-proposal page or place it right after.=C2=A0 While at it links to some mo= ral documents created recently could be added, like Bjarne's Remember t= he Wasa. Along with quote from D&E where the old policy was to require = each submission also donate a kidney.=C2=A0=C2=A0

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If the current somewhat obscure path is intentional to deter half-bake= d papers and general flood, it's not really working looking at just the= most recent list of submissions.=C2=A0


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