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Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:00:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 2002:a81:98cc:: with SMTP id p195-v6ls1141808ywg.2.gmail; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a81:78c6:: with SMTP id t189-v6mr35556ywc.7.1535148037917; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: MihailNajdenov@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:40012 Archived-At: ------=_Part_422_1958045273.1535148037449 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_423_1274674186.1535148037449" ------=_Part_423_1274674186.1535148037449 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:16:12 AM UTC+3, Hyman Rosen wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4:22 PM > > wrote: > >> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:22:11 PM UTC+3, Matthew Woehlke wrote: >>> >>> On 2018-08-24 15:03, mihailn...@gmail.com wrote: >>> > That aside, it seems so far the weak names are the only ones desired. >>> Really? >>> Granted, I'm not sure at this point what "weak names" means, but I'm not >>> sure I agree with that statement. >> >> As far as the votes so far are concerned. 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On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:16:12 AM UTC+3,= Hyman Rosen wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4= :22 PM <mihailn...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:22:11 PM UTC+3, Matthe= w Woehlke wrote:
On 2018-08-24 15:03= , mihailn...@gmail.com wrote:
> That aside, it seems so far the weak names are the only ones desir= ed.
Really?
Granted, I'm not sure at this point what "weak names" mea= ns, but I'm not
sure I agree with that statement.=C2=A0
As far as the = votes so far are concerned. As you know, I believe we need both.

=C2=A0
I don't see why leaving declarations alone affects using= parameter names to specify arguments.=C2=A0
=
=C2=A0
Because the user code starts depending on things, the= library author might not want it to depend on.=C2=A0
Much like &= quot;don't reopen std", "don't take the address of a std = function", library authors want the arguments to remain outside the in= terface to their code.

From a practical standpoint= , the author might want to introduce naming partially either because the co= de is in flux,
=C2=A0or simply because he considers only few argu= ment important and worthy of standardizing - after all it is his interface,= he should be able to design it how he wants it.
Also, with a sep= arate syntax the author should be able to use any word, including ke= ywords like for, if, default.


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