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Botet Escriba=20 wrote: > > Le 19/08/2018 =C3=A0 15:04, mihailn...@gmail.com a =C3=A9cr= it : > > > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 3:26:12 PM UTC+3, Vicente J. Botet Escriba= =20 > wrote:=20 >> >> Independently of the language feature, using a tag type allows to=20 >> transport the tag between different functions. In addition, you cannot= =20 >> change the class constructor name, so you will need a tag to be able to= =20 >> overload it. Take for example the in_place_t tag.=20 >> > > I have thoroughly explored that idea a month back:=20 > https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msg/std-proposals/tPtdQE2GXb0/4O= jT5Z4pBQAJ > > Feel free to comment there, I am undecided on the topic.=20 > > =20 > > I'm not sure yet we need some syntactic sugar for this tag dispatching=20 > feature neither. > I'm just trying to separate the named parameter part from the overload=20 > part as orthogonal features. > You go too far for my taste in your proposal and you propose to have all= =20 > at once. I'll be against such a feature. > Can you elaborate a bit more, what are your expectations and where should a= =20 line be drawn? As you can see in the comments to the post, there are=20 similar concerns. In any case it is not a proposal, but an investigation. It is clear tags=20 have overlap with strong names, and if we can get an attractive=20 proposition, based on tags, we can mark at least one part (the harder=20 part?) of the named arguments equation "fixed".=20 > Vicente > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 7:46:58 PM UTC+3, Vi= cente J. Botet Escriba wrote:
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Le 19/08/2018 =C3=A0 15:04, mihailn...@gmail.com a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
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On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 3:26:12 PM UTC+3, Vicente J. Botet Escriba wrote:
Independently of the language feature, using a tag type allows to
transport the tag between different functions. In addition, you cannot
change the class constructor name, so you will need a tag to be able to
overload it. Take for example the in_place_t tag.


Feel free to comment there, I am undecided on the topic.=C2=A0=

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I'm not sure yet we need some syntactic sugar for this tag dispatching feature neither.
I'm just trying to separate the named parameter part from the overload part as orthogonal features.
You go too far for my taste in your proposal and you propose to have all at once. I'll be against such a feature.
=

Can you elaborate a bit more, what are your expectation= s and where should a line be drawn? As you can see in the comments to the p= ost, there are similar concerns.
In any case it is not a proposal= , but an It is clear tags have overlap with strong names, and if we= can get an attractive proposition, based on tags, we can mark at least one= part (the harder part?) of the named arguments equation "fixed".= =C2=A0


Vicente

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