220 39815 article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Justin Bassett Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Named Parameters for C++ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 23:33:55 -0700 Lines: 354 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000049578b057387a1b7" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1534401124 6565 195.159.176.226 (16 Aug 2018 06:32:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 06:32:04 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC5PL3NYWEDBBYFV2TNQKGQEZQTVSBQ@isocpp.org Thu Aug 16 08:32:00 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f72.google.com ([209.85.218.72]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fqBp8-0001YM-QJ for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 08:31:59 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f72.google.com with SMTP id v205-v6sf3387384oie.20 for ; 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Designated > initializer lists are also not opt-in. I don't really see a problem with > this. I can't imagine function parameters to change once they're the > function is part of the API. > Consider all the standard library functions. Suddenly all the parameter names become public. Here's an example from this reddit thread ( https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/5mdes5/what_happened_to_the_named_parameter_proposal/ ): std::max(._Left = 1, ._Right = 2) Those names are not intended to be public. They are named strangely like this to avoid problems with user defined macros. We *could *standardize names for every function in the standard, but I believe that is a lot of work. Also, that would make parameter names part of the API by default. I believe library authors would like the opt-in design, as it makes it much easier to make API compatible changes. Names used as function parameters are not generally expected to be part of the API. Especially considering that there is a lot of code already written which assumes that the parameter names are not part of the API. If we suddenly change it to be part of the API, the library authors had no say in whether those names should be part of the API. > There should be some way to specify that the parameter is name-only. For >> example, altering Python's implementation >> : >> >> // anything after the . is name-only >> int foo(., int .x); >> >> Default arguments should be able to work as they are now. >> > > I disagree with your proposed solution. Name-only parameters naturally > appear when they are after a varadic ("catch-all") parameter, just like in > Python's implementation. > Good point. I don't disagree with this, but I didn't like having to specify the types for the variadic template pack. Note that PEP 3102, which I linked to, allows Python to leave off the name for the variadic parameter. I was imagining something like that > template > void f(T ..., int name); > > f(.name = 1); // name-only argument > > Now you have a small problem: C's variadic parameters are specified in the > grammar itself to come last, which can be changed but would require some > restructuring. But I don't think it's worth supporting them. > I agree here. If supporting C's varargs is difficult in this case, I don't consider it a big drawback to disallow them when a function has named parameters. > However, I believe that the name should be part of the function type and >> should be mangled into the name for the function. It should not be allowed >> for the following two declarations to coexist: >> >> int foo(int .x, int .y); >> int foo(int .a, int .b); >> >> If the name of the parameters are not part of the function, then if those >> declarations are in separate translation units, there's little way to >> enforce that this should fail to compile / link. >> > > Any reasons to disallow this? I mean, this is already possible: > My first reason for doing so was to directly address concerns in a reddit thread asking about a previous named parameters proposal . I also believe it is wrong for names which are part of the API to be easily changeable like that. Additionally, consider name-only parameters. If they could be renamed, that would be dependent on the order in which they are declared, which I consider to be an implementation detail. I'm okay if it is allowed, but I strongly prefer it to be disallowed. > void foo(int = 1); > > void f() { > void foo(int = 2); > foo(); > } > Named parameters are very different from default parameters. I dislike that we can even do this for default arguments. I'd rather be more restrictive and find we should loosen the restriction later than be less restrictive and find we should have tightened the restrictions. I'm not saying that this is good code, but the truth is that indeed there > is no way to enforce this requirement over multiple TUs for every single > case. There is the possibility of making this IF;NDR, but really, I don't > see why I shouldn't be able to rename parameters (coding/style guidelines?). > I believe it is possible to enforce this over multiple TUs in some basic cases, but thinking about it, I guess it is true that it doesn't work for some of the more complex cases. If we mangle the names of every named parameter into the symbol, though, that would catch many cases, I believe, albeit with a not-very-descriptive diagnostic. IF;NDR is my preference otherwise. > Now for templates. In order to have higher-order functions which work on >> named parameters, I believe it is necessary to have a new kind of template >> parameter, something like this: >> > > Oh I don't like this; it's too different if you know what I mean. What do > you think of saying that the named parameter is implicitly part of the > expansion if the expansion happens in a function parameter list? > I thought about this. My primary concern is that functions which were never designed with named parameters in mind suddenly can be called with named parameters. I believe it is best to give library authors the chance to think about this new aspect of the API before opening it up to all named parameters. Other things: - This would be similar to if Python's varargs accepted kwargs as well. I don't like this. - How would the library author restrict a function to only named parameters, or only positional parameters? - There would be quite a bit of work figuring out all the cases where a name should be generated and where a name should not be generated. It might not even be possible. > template > auto f(Ts ...Args) { // No change here. > g(Args...); // Same. > return {Args...}[0]; // Same. > } > > f(1, 2); // ok: calls g(1, 2); returns 1 > f(.Lhs = 1, .Rhs = 2); // ok; calls g(.Lhs = 1, .Rhs = 2); returns 1 > > For example, it would be nice to be easily able to specify the allocator >> of an unordered_map: std::unordered_map> MyAllocator> . I believe this would break ABI compatibility, though. > > > How would this break ABI compatibility? The name of the function arguments > need to to be mangled (which is a non-issue for templates in any case). > It depends on how it is implemented. True, it only has to be a reordering, in which case it would be fully ABI compatible. For some reason, I was imagining the names being mangled into the type. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. 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On Wed= , Aug 15, 2018 at 10:55 PM Nicolas Lesser <blitzrakete@gmail.com> wrote:
For declaring a function with named parameters, it= is imperative that it is opt-in, otherwise, functions parameter names beco= me part of the public API of the function, which is undesirable

Pardon my ignorance= , but why exactly is this undesirable? Designated initializer lists are als= o not opt-in. I don't really see a problem with this. I can't imagi= ne function parameters to change once they're the function is part of t= he API.

Consider all the standa= rd library functions. Suddenly all the parameter names become public. Here&= #39;s an example from this reddit thread (http= s://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/5mdes5/what_happened_to_the_named_paramet= er_proposal/):

std::max(._Left =3D 1, ._Right =3D 2)

= Those names are not intended to be public. They are named strangely like th= is to avoid problems with user defined macros. We could standardize = names for every function in the standard, but I believe that is a lot of wo= rk.

Also, that would make parameter names part of = the API by default. I believe library authors would like the opt-in design,= as it makes it much easier to make API compatible changes. Names used as f= unction parameters are not generally expected to be part of the API. Especi= ally considering that there is a lot of code already written which assumes = that the parameter names are not part of the API. If we suddenly change it = to be part of the API, the library authors had no say in whether those name= s should be part of the API.
=C2=A0
There should be some way to specify that = the parameter is name-only. For example, altering=C2=A0Python's implementa= tion:

// a= nything after the . is name-only
int foo(., int .x);

Default argu= ments should be able to work as they are now.

I disagree with your proposed solution. Name-only parameters natur= ally appear when they are after a varadic ("catch-all") parameter= , just like in Python's implementation.=C2=A0
<= div>
Good point. I don't disagree with this, but I didn&#= 39;t like having to specify the types for the variadic template pack. Note = that PEP 3102, which=C2=A0I linked to, allows Python to leave off the name = for the variadic parameter. I was imagining something like that
= =C2=A0
template <typename ...T>
void f(T ..., = int name);

f(.name =3D 1); // name-only argument

Now you have a small problem: C's variadic para= meters are specified in the grammar itself to come last, which can be chang= ed but would require some restructuring. But I don't think it's wor= th supporting them.=C2=A0

I agr= ee here. If supporting C's varargs is difficult in this case, I don'= ;t consider it a big drawback to disallow them when a function has named pa= rameters.
=C2=A0
However, I believe that the name should be part of the func= tion type and should be mangled into the name for the function. It should n= ot be allowed for the following two declarations to coexist:

=
int foo(int .x, int .y);
int foo(int .a, int .b);<= /font>

If the name of the parameters are not part = of the function, then if those declarations are in separate translation uni= ts, there's little way to enforce that this should fail to compile / li= nk.

Any reasons to disallow this? I m= ean, this is already possible:

= My first reason for doing so was to directly address concerns in a reddit thread asking about a previous named parameters= proposal. I also believe it is wrong for names which are part of the A= PI to be easily changeable like that. Additionally, consider name-only para= meters. If they could be renamed, that would be dependent on the order in w= hich they are declared, which I consider to be an implementation detail. I&= #39;m okay if it is allowed, but I strongly prefer it to be disallowed.
=C2=A0
void foo(int =3D 1);

vo= id f() {
=C2=A0 void foo(int =3D 2);
=C2=A0 foo();
}=

Named parameters are very diff= erent from default parameters. I dislike that we can even do this for defau= lt arguments. I'd rather be more restrictive and find we should loosen = the restriction later than be less restrictive and find we should have tigh= tened the restrictions.

I'm not saying that= this is good code, but the truth is that indeed there is no way to enforce= this requirement over multiple TUs for every single case. There is the pos= sibility of making this IF;NDR, but really, I don't see why I shouldn&#= 39;t be able to rename parameters (coding/style guidelines?).

I believe it is possible to enforce this ove= r multiple TUs in some basic cases, but thinking about it, I guess it is tr= ue that it doesn't work for some of the more complex cases. If we mangl= e the names of every named parameter into the symbol, though, that would ca= tch many cases, I believe, albeit with a not-very-descriptive diagnostic. I= F;NDR is my preference otherwise.
=C2=A0
Now for templates. In order to have higher-order f= unctions which work on named parameters, I believe it is necessary to have = a new kind of template parameter, something like this:

Oh I don't like this; it's too different if you kno= w what I mean. What do you think of saying that the named parameter is impl= icitly part of the expansion if the expansion happens in a function paramet= er list?

I thought about this. = My primary concern is that functions which were never designed with named p= arameters in mind suddenly can be called with named parameters. I believe i= t is best to give library authors the chance to think about this new aspect= of the API before opening it up to all named parameters.

Other things:
  • This would be similar to if Python&= #39;s varargs accepted kwargs as well. I don't like this.
  • How w= ould the library author restrict a function to only named parameters, or on= ly positional parameters?
  • There would be quite a bit of work figuri= ng out all the cases where a name should be generated and where a name shou= ld not be generated. It might not even be possible.
=C2= =A0
template <typename ...Ts>
auto f(Ts ...Arg= s) {=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0// No change here.
=C2=A0 g(Arg= s...);=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0// Same.
=C2=A0 return {Args...}[0];=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 // Same.=
}

f(1, 2); // ok: calls g(1, 2); return= s 1
f(.Lhs =3D 1, .Rhs =3D 2); // ok; calls g(.Lhs =3D 1, .Rhs = =3D 2); returns 1
=C2=A0
For example, it would be nice to be easily able t= o specify the allocator of an unordered_map:=C2=A0std::unordered_map<Key, Value, .allocator =3D MyAllocator>= =C2=A0. I believe this w= ould break ABI compatibility, though.

How would this break ABI compatibility? The name of the function argument= s need to to be mangled (which is a non-issue for templates in any case).= =C2=A0=C2=A0

It depends on how = it is implemented. True, it only has to be a reordering, in which case it w= ould be fully ABI compatible. For some reason, I was imagining the names be= ing mangled into the type.

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