220 39664 article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimitrij Mijoski Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Readability improvement: types go on the right side Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 86 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <71cf7691-0c85-46b2-9a85-46a9b4b57e9d@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_706_423036990.1533911132496" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1533911010 20481 195.159.176.226 (10 Aug 2018 14:23:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 14:23:30 +0000 (UTC) To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCRIFJHGXANBBXOAW3NQKGQES5KSZMA@isocpp.org Fri Aug 10 16:23:26 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-yw1-f69.google.com ([209.85.161.69]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fo8K3-0005B1-Cu for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:23:23 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-yw1-f69.google.com with SMTP id 22-v6sf13009212ywd.15 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=/sIMR1vlVfq13d16vSkA00bTSLc3Hry8O9KTGS9NFf8=; b=ER61szST25qskgCENZiWvIDKo+BEQgQ9lc6YRN1dirQLGD7iWXKThbrZxmUYr2dd3K FZ5ZtUPnk8/UDe2kZPEhq1GpH6f1nD33FQHId1vsLMTEBngaJo3+sRAtNOtD9h0qm7nE dDHNfHOpV6SRki1StccZX6qs1+rHJlULsBIeCIfu3iq+omXC6JGsMrovtJhusj69QaLv D82d6kdEqZc1PfZJCEYxTIm2p8C+83e0ZeIFRy9fk/in37QqvRZPsf4Qk+pUx2Uux8GD aTGdDcaZxyH3Hq8yhwwv23UNSjaFFr2nG6aK2jP1kaue/skex4/WLyX4mTdSFrlYxRGx O5Ow== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=/sIMR1vlVfq13d16vSkA00bTSLc3Hry8O9KTGS9NFf8=; b=n2AHvLRrtgqix7CyaglIpz+GiR3ph30WpGhzhZhYG9D+2naxrupFtgQCVtn3wpDt25 Mo59ouP8ew35ytB8b6DZEayIkSkpQRmYsVyBTZQVgVh//mIrxi5TuS4VQfF8/hXHrLhJ ij/n0TQSNQLhP9vtg4TutB+GEto3VSNi1fdfonzdOgS2XzmIoK7pAlyRvByfYbvFFrjC z8PBXPzXbLtS21DSk2bcJ1YuOmQ4SCFJN9HQ2NnzuI8Vn5CH7AvCa+1p1XG9xqgOk1f1 zXf44I081YFcwRV3QEognznhVt0NX000q9ilxJ9uu4rXZTsAQSjkWKCOX2PHK3hZyXy3 b3iA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=/sIMR1vlVfq13d16vSkA00bTSLc3Hry8O9KTGS9NFf8=; b=PhOo/YFE+nV/sDUr/U/mZ15uuXT2/XgSkxzZnAhSewbLwns6NiPBvwuoNEQ/VVTuHB BxryFlLa/22bwDtNBF1Y9k9blBrVzkuvGNZy31i/ME3OlKqgx+ld6Mqv8Cw9N2SdnQHM HViiyDNu95CJhh7YgT5dn0d3QNSV/EHlVJngswPEtoEnOkXdK5Eveu9lkNMz9avosAKU CO4/K/LxOWT6D5o0LS9SFdR4SmG2IY8/BlBO8XC0e+4yiqemW7nztpziEdRy3+86e33Y cV36/KZUsqN1SNfgSFZVzTkQ/ESTMhhgEzmKW5IYt2pxQsDYWlY+sal+LAbQ7lmjG+gT Pl6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlGaLxH9gJH4V+0Lwf127t3lxRgptIQ41S8ax2MYN0F1yoVl3G83 85y3sO181dy9gZ2kKWQp2zU4bw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPypOHnepB56Vp//5XP1mbNSAh7Tn7WtgiCBUxgFY7nO3Rftu6dv+LPx5Fr/5d32q4pIvpgdBg== X-Received: by 2002:a81:56:: with SMTP id 83-v6mr2035274ywa.68.1533911133917; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 2002:a25:c016:: with SMTP id c22-v6ls264979ybf.2.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:9788:: with SMTP id i8-v6mr71978ybo.1.1533911132911; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:25:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <71cf7691-0c85-46b2-9a85-46a9b4b57e9d@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: dim.mj.p@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:39664 Archived-At: ------=_Part_706_423036990.1533911132496 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_707_570712097.1533911132496" ------=_Part_707_570712097.1533911132496 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 3:43:54 PM UTC+2, Nicol Bolas wrote: > > > Is it? I find "Let there be a variable of type `Type` called `x`" works > just as well. > Please open various math textbooks or textbooks on algorithms or similar materials and just see how common is the expression "Let x be a varaible...". That is a reason why many popular programming languages adopted a keyword let, not just syntax with type after variable name. Even C++ adopted this, but not completely. > So, you're suggesting that we use precious syntax for notation. This won't > increase the capabilities of any C++ program; it simply changes how things > are declared. > > Yeah, that's not really worth the cost. > > Yes I'm suggesting exactly that, and it is worth the effort. Not all changes have to be stuffing features and making the language write-only. Now, I'm going to ignore your further comments because you are the regular troll around here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. 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On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 3:43:54 PM UTC+2, Nicol Bola= s wrote:

<= div>Is it? I find "Let there be a variable of type `Type` called `x`&q= uot; works just as well.

Pl= ease open various math textbooks or textbooks on algorithms or similar mate= rials and just see how common is the expression "Let x be a varaible..= ..". That is a reason why many popular programming languages adopted a = keyword let, not just syntax with type after variable name. Even C++ adopte= d this, but not completely.
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So, you're suggesting that we use precious syntax for notat= ion. This won't increase the capabilities of any C++ program; it simply= changes how things are declared.

Yeah, that's= not really worth the cost.


Yes I'm suggesting exactly that, and it is worth the effort. Not all c= hanges have to be stuffing features and making the language write-only.

Now, I'm going to ignore your further comments be= cause you are the regular troll around here.

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