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What would that:   using my_type = foobar<my_type>;
mean to you?

If it would be possible, then for the compiler it's infinite recursion, so
it's not possible (as of my understanding).

2018-07-17 22:22 GMT+02:00 <itsjimporter@gmail.com>:

> (Note: This is just a quick sanity check before I try to write up
> something a little more concrete.) Are there any reasons why it would be
> impossible to modify the standard to allow using the name of a type alias
> in its definition, similar to CRTP? For example:
>
>   using my_type = foobar<my_type>;
>
> I ask because this *appears* to be a relatively straightforward way to
> handle at least common cases of recursive variants without magic like
> Boost's `make_recursive_variant`. For example, you might define a JSON
> container like this:
>
>   using json = std::variant<
>     double,
>     std::string,
>     std::vector<json>,
>     std::map<std::string, json>
>   >;
>
> (The above would likely also require that `std::map` support values of
> incomplete type like `std::vector` already does.) Currently, the only way
> around this that I know of is to create one or more subclasses to
> forward-declare some of the names as needed.
>
> - Jim
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">What would that:=C2=A0<span class=3D"gmail-m_-149010934746=
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class=3D"gmail-m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify" style=3D"font-fami=
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tion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span>=
=C2=A0</span>foobar</span><span class=3D"gmail-m_-1490109347464383053styled=
-by-prettify" style=3D"font-family:monospace;font-size:10.4px;background-co=
lor:rgb(250,250,250);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:in=
itial;color:rgb(0,136,0)">&lt;my_type&gt;</span><span class=3D"gmail-m_-149=
0109347464383053styled-by-prettify" style=3D"font-family:monospace;font-siz=
e:10.4px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);text-decoration-style:initial;te=
xt-decoration-color:initial;color:rgb(102,102,0)">;=C2=A0<br></span>mean to=
 you?<br><br>If it would be possible, then for the compiler it&#39;s infini=
te recursion, so it&#39;s not possible (as of my understanding).<br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2018-07-17 22:22 G=
MT+02:00  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:itsjimporter@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">itsjimporter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">(Note: This is just a quick sanity check be=
fore I try to write up something a little more concrete.) Are there any rea=
sons why it would be impossible to modify the standard to allow using the n=
ame of a type alias in its definition, similar to CRTP? For example:<br><br=
><div style=3D"background-color:rgb(250,250,250);border-color:rgb(187,187,1=
87);border-style:solid;border-width:1px" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053pre=
ttyprint"><code class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053prettyprint"><div class=3D"m=
_-1490109347464383053subprettyprint"><span style=3D"color:#000" class=3D"m_=
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#008" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify">using</span><span =
style=3D"color:#000" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify"> my=
_type </span><span style=3D"color:#660" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styl=
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pan></div></code></div><br>I ask because this *appears* to be a relatively =
straightforward way to handle at least common cases of recursive variants w=
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ght define a JSON container like this:<br><br><div style=3D"background-colo=
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or</span><span style=3D"color:#080" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-b=
y-prettify">&lt;json&gt;</span><span style=3D"color:#660" class=3D"m_-14901=
09347464383053styled-by-prettify">,</span><span style=3D"color:#000" class=
=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify"><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 std</span><=
span style=3D"color:#660" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify=
">::</span><span style=3D"color:#000" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled=
-by-prettify">map</span><span style=3D"color:#660" class=3D"m_-149010934746=
4383053styled-by-prettify">&lt;</span><span style=3D"color:#000" class=3D"m=
_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify">std</span><span style=3D"color:#66=
0" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify">::</span><span style=
=3D"color:#008" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify">string</=
span><span style=3D"color:#660" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-pr=
ettify">,</span><span style=3D"color:#000" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053s=
tyled-by-prettify"> json</span><span style=3D"color:#660" class=3D"m_-14901=
09347464383053styled-by-prettify">&gt;</span><span style=3D"color:#000" cla=
ss=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify"><br>=C2=A0 </span><span sty=
le=3D"color:#660" class=3D"m_-1490109347464383053styled-by-prettify">&gt;;<=
/span></div></code></div><br>(The above would likely also require that `std=
::map` support values of incomplete type like `std::vector` already does.) =
Currently, the only way around this that I know of is to create one or more=
 subclasses to forward-declare some of the names as needed.<br><br>- Jim<sp=
an class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br><br><br>=C2=A0 <br></fo=
nt></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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