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Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:11:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.31.158.3 with SMTP id h3ls4505496vke.11.gmail; Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:11:43 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.31.147.5 with SMTP id v5mr1006187vkd.5.1519621903648; Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:11:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: jsaintmartin356@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:37068 Archived-At: ------=_Part_13311_1095586059.1519621902958 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13312_143217364.1519621902958" ------=_Part_13312_143217364.1519621902958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" all you need to do is to add the reverse and reversible qualifiers for basic types On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 10:18:07 AM UTC+1, Jake Arkinstall wrote: > > On 24 Feb 2018 08:54, > wrote: > > But you may avoid a great number of fools -if not all- placing a sign > "fools : no entry". > > > No. They see it as an invitation. > > If a keyword can't be validated by the compiler, there's no point in it. > You can get pseudoconst without any effort by simply not declaring it > const. But if you want to introduce a new concept it needs to be > enforceable or it isn't worth the work that goes into the change. > > If what you want is a sign on the door, you can do that with comments. If > you want an iris-scanner and finger print reader combination deadbolt, > three armed security guards, Lego blocks on the floor, a bobcat, and a moat > containing sharks with lasers, that's when you need a language modification. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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all you need to do is to add the reverse and reversible qu= alifiers for basic types

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 10:18:07 = AM UTC+1, Jake Arkinstall wrote:
On 24 Feb 2018 08:54, <jsaintm...@gmail.com> wrote:
But you may avoid a great number of fools -if not all-= placing a sign "fools : no entry".=C2=A0

No. They see it as an invitation.

If a keyword can't be validated b= y the compiler, there's no point in it. You can get pseudoconst without= any effort by simply not declaring it const. But if you want to introduce = a new concept it needs to be enforceable or it isn't worth the work tha= t goes into the change.

= If what you want is a sign on the door, you can do that with comments. If y= ou want an iris-scanner and finger print reader combination deadbolt, three= armed security guards, Lego blocks on the floor, a bobcat, and a moat cont= aining sharks with lasers, that's when you need a language modification= ..

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