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[209.85.220.41]) by mx.google.com with SMTPS id v7sor1728487vkg.114.2018.02.24.01.18.05 for (Google Transport Security); Sat, 24 Feb 2018 01:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jake.arkinstall@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.41; X-Received: by 10.31.151.7 with SMTP id z7mr3480374vkd.113.1519463884755; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 01:18:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.176.4.16 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 01:18:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.176.4.16 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2018 01:18:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8420f81c-5b9e-4077-904c-f0a507a6ff89@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: jake.arkinstall@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ZmbBcLgK; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jake.arkinstall@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jake.arkinstall@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:37047 Archived-At: --001a1141d570199a6b0565f1c1c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 24 Feb 2018 08:54, wrote: But you may avoid a great number of fools -if not all- placing a sign "fools : no entry". No. They see it as an invitation. If a keyword can't be validated by the compiler, there's no point in it. You can get pseudoconst without any effort by simply not declaring it const. But if you want to introduce a new concept it needs to be enforceable or it isn't worth the work that goes into the change. If what you want is a sign on the door, you can do that with comments. If you want an iris-scanner and finger print reader combination deadbolt, three armed security guards, Lego blocks on the floor, a bobcat, and a moat containing sharks with lasers, that's when you need a language modification. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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No. They see it as an invitation.

If a keyword can't be validated by the compiler, there&#= 39;s no point in it. You can get pseudoconst without any effort by simply n= ot declaring it const. But if you want to introduce a new concept it needs = to be enforceable or it isn't worth the work that goes into the change.=

If what you want is a s= ign on the door, you can do that with comments. If you want an iris-scanner= and finger print reader combination deadbolt, three armed security guards,= Lego blocks on the floor, a bobcat, and a moat containing sharks with lase= rs, that's when you need a language modification.

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