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Perhaps their use case > for this language, and their vision of how it is used is a narrow one? > > Honestly, since when was the easy printing of debug information "not a > nice thing?" > > If it costs too much to do, it's not a nice thing. The fact you consider it easier to use, portable, and more powerful does not make it so. It's a pretty big mystery to me why anyone would want something built on iostreams in 2018. Honestly, since when is making one of the worst parts of the language MORE vital a nice thing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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>=C2=A0Or because what you are proposin= g is not a nice thing, as several knowledgable people have told you.=

Or alternatively,
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It would be a nice thing, = and the usual naysayers seem still to be trying to prevent the language fro= m becoming easy to use, portable and powerful.

Why they w= ould seek to do this is a mystery to me. Perhaps their use case for this la= nguage, and their vision of how it is used is a narrow one?

Honestly, since when was the easy printing of debug inform= ation "not a nice thing?"

=

If it costs too much to do, it's not a nice thing. = The fact you consider it easier to use, portable, and more powerful does no= t make it so.
It's a pretty big mystery to me why anyone woul= d want something built on iostreams in 2018.=C2=A0

Honestly, since when is making one of the worst parts of the language MORE= vital a nice thing?

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