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This is why we cannot have nice things. On 9 Feb 2018 16:39, "Thiago Macieira" wrote: > On Friday, 9 February 2018 05:51:29 PST Jake Arkinstall wrote: > > That would be nice, but generic is a royal pain in the backside in this > > circumstance. This is not something that can be written in the current > > language because it requires interpetation of the strings. How on earth > > that is supposed to generalise to choices of fmt, string conversion and > > concatenation, stringstreams, and whatever magical solution we're waiting > > on to make string manipulation efficient, I have no idea, especially in > the > > general situation where the different approaches - e.g. to_string and > > operator<< - are not equivalent. > > And that's exactly I feel this proposal has no future. > > -- > Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. > To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/ > isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/3073671.g2Bv754bdN%40tjmaciei-mobl1. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. 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Okay, so a feature which exists in many languages, with c= onsiderably wide use, cannot possibly be used in C++ because it isn't g= ood enough for us.

This is why= we cannot have nice things.

On 9 Feb 2018 16:39, "Thiago Macieira" <= ;thiago@macieira.org> wrote:<= br type=3D"attribution">
On Friday, 9 Februar= y 2018 05:51:29 PST Jake Arkinstall wrote:
> That would be nice, but generic is a royal pain in the backside in thi= s
> circumstance. This is not something that can be written in the current=
> language because it requires interpetation of the strings. How on eart= h
> that is supposed to generalise to choices of fmt, string conversion an= d
> concatenation, stringstreams, and whatever magical solution we're = waiting
> on to make string manipulation efficient, I have no idea, especially i= n the
> general situation where the different approaches - e.g. to_string and<= br> > operator<< - are not equivalent.

And that's exactly I feel this proposal has no future.

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Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center



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