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[109.173.28.20]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q77sm2982020lfd.17.2018.01.14.07.50.59 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:50:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0087c1a4-0b36-40ca-8d43-5bfaf0af62ca@isocpp.org> Content-Language: ru X-Original-Sender: andrey.semashev@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ENrCgjd9; spf=pass (google.com: domain of andrey.semashev@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=andrey.semashev@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:36617 Archived-At: On 01/14/18 16:40, mihailnajdenov@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > In recent years there is a boom of static analysis - from new languages > like Rust and Swift to the powerful tools, provided by C++ compilers. > > However I don't see it C++ language /mandating/ any of these. I have a > question - is this something the committee is looking into? Is there a > working group for this? > If a tool is a lifesaver, why is it not mandatory - who does not what to > save lifes? > > I strongly believe bringing more (any?) static analysis into the > language is away to keep it modern and relevant, especially, considering > C++ very static language and has a lot of compile-time information the > tools can work with. > > Any answers and thoughts are welcome. How does *mandating* a particular tool help language users? If you can use a tool right now, why do you want to enforce it on everyone? Also, what should we do about the platforms where such tools are not available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. 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