220 36336 <19c8a5bf-2061-4318-8954-f1e243f12414@isocpp.org> article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nicol Bolas Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Now that the std::forward alternative has been rejected Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:48:10 -0800 (PST) Lines: 79 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <19c8a5bf-2061-4318-8954-f1e243f12414@isocpp.org> References: <1a84e87b-c045-408c-9828-b1aba2185a0a@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_14960_708739461.1514184490591" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514184377 13770 195.159.176.226 (25 Dec 2017 06:46:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 06:46:17 +0000 (UTC) To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCEKFTV6ZUMBBK56QLJAKGQEFWZAOBA@isocpp.org Mon Dec 25 07:46:13 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ua0-f200.google.com ([209.85.217.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTMWY-0002z0-5l for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 07:46:10 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ua0-f200.google.com with SMTP id k20sf8022317ual.7 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:48:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=R2pSufAkUjq+711FqaPWPEtx5NCpyzbdG1aSeWenLAY=; b=ZEA9reHI7FW107duR4MrIfpi7oC4aETZlHMa2CbLKZAdgAXUiddQ9UapZaa99DQ3DM EGN0YNrtegbUR0Tee7hXmGISbNfgz23V4QH1pnQQUm1bwOTV6JsyHMhWkCsD5vBxt2vo Kobn6S9A+pj98u1FWsjdu7yhwEk26HLdOnXFnAbj6/kjXFT5NFHO1zxLxBxkOGBY+A1E tKf/lXgFYIrsquXyuy69ZIWPo+eMa8uduzAyWvjuI4KjpicNNhZxF8x34UKjSVvP9doJ I0Q4gneWmfpiTqNYvfC0Btb9uIPEFV8VVUih//q65FpwmFaaN4lQuMOiqRSB6sFLa55M Nm4A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=R2pSufAkUjq+711FqaPWPEtx5NCpyzbdG1aSeWenLAY=; b=ohWlkOHpXhvkXHfW1hUGDa3BgqhxaYuD9gN5OUuTQ4KKCK8Y+jtamYFGiQw1wlOVcf i0sUAZ3DiCY6Z5jfmk4qdKtwexkkHvPtGxs+fanrfI2/uzrFqWU+3jray+F9GjwB7uNH Jp/hJAOYx/cwPC/T59ntooXRNTNOIA9FmrnLFJJhRG6y2SD8SLtI3ob5z8x2VRcCazvw W7XZYP22jppwUO3mRyU+BAK3a5gwIX8cs3P6VgyAZQ5XAkYarV3tsiLpyp6nPW9DDbeg Qcvl+GXQSrWzcjwHbXZZEk+FO8heXEWTCJtNS6xYOugOWzqneE6jGqwDb+aCe/YEFYdg Fvgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=R2pSufAkUjq+711FqaPWPEtx5NCpyzbdG1aSeWenLAY=; b=KNT+6S2O0IqwuBCfTbbjJ7NENPQhpSiRVk/gG7X+Oee372yvEJpJg7w4b1KrC3A1OV M6xmOe2Yg8/bPlWrHVeF0umwQjzBjiMt3QPTtlQ52uzg1iIkpMTkwVRSLj8NPQ9q/dab VBCD9t4nPEYbMRN6SYEpnLeuWhriyTNoKJbaaccxb2nqooa+X1OmLXG1z6nTkhkk9MHz sK+cO6ffyZjEY+S31PoT0ljieX9k8W+FWKuCoaSjngTx+/fvEol2bTaDrGgZL793OQAk QScAeUOEqokvbV8rDU0TL8wv7nbkStJwq3ZNDn7ykEskGT83rZo++EF8NwATnPZQPrNy S9IQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mL2srYwflmmoHzvgnokRIn/9VOorEQx+xpCHOiNSC0YVt5Fymqi gLRbjWVkVb6xpG83Xwx2NXKRDw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBouMb0FqL69qnwC6C6svGm+UkFGB61pqiPrQNOjLULTrFBjeTzGMVcPe2MU3m8VhPSWQsano0g== X-Received: by 10.176.83.40 with SMTP id x37mr3355644uax.11.1514184492585; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:48:12 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.159.38.33 with SMTP id 30ls129095uag.12.gmail; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:48:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.31.174.75 with SMTP id x72mr1986943vke.13.1514184491045; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:48:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: jmckesson@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:36336 Archived-At: ------=_Part_14960_708739461.1514184490591 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14961_925865880.1514184490592" ------=_Part_14961_925865880.1514184490592 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 1:21:32 AM UTC-5, Jim Porter wrote: > > On 12/24/2017 10:28 PM, Nicol Bolas wrote: > > And code like this is certainly not limited to "library writers". Not > > unless C++ gets lifting lambdas/overload set lambdas (and that's sadly > > unlikely at this point). > > Does that mean "not likely to get *ever*" or "not likely to get in the > immediate future"? I haven't followed the overload set stuff very > closely (too busy with other things, unfortunately), but I was > cautiously excited for it when the papers for it first showed up. > Well, considering that there have been at least 3 proposals for it, and they didn't get farther than concept stage, I'd guess it's more the former than the latter. For whatever reason, the committee seems utterly terrified of doing anything of significance with lambdas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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On Monday, December 25, 2017 at 1:21:32 AM UTC-5, = Jim Porter wrote:
On 12/24/2017= 10:28 PM, Nicol Bolas wrote:
> And code like this is certainly not limited to "library write= rs". Not=20
> unless C++ gets lifting lambdas/overload set lambdas (and that'= ;s sadly=20
> unlikely at this point).

Does that mean "not likely to get *ever*" or "not likely= to get in the=20
immediate future"? I haven't followed the overload set stuff v= ery=20
closely (too busy with other things, unfortunately), but I was=20
cautiously excited for it when the papers for it first showed up.

Well, considering that there have been at le= ast 3 proposals for it, and they didn't get farther than concept stage,= I'd guess it's more the former than the latter. For whatever reaso= n, the committee seems utterly terrified of doing anything of significance = with lambdas.

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