220 36333 <CAOhm51GU_jQzBuvZSfJZibFq=+2SSsvgNn-frAA72yhMLOLedA@mail.gmail.com> article
Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Bastien penavayre <bastienpenava@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals
Subject: Re: Re: Now that the std::forward alternative has
 been rejected
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 06:24:05 +0000
Lines: 112
Approved: news@gmane.org
Message-ID: <CAOhm51GU_jQzBuvZSfJZibFq=+2SSsvgNn-frAA72yhMLOLedA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ebc148fa-9b1f-4972-8a53-6f52c6ead259@isocpp.org>
 <e447b9dd-d8d1-4b73-b1f3-4a6a5ab295a5@isocpp.org> <1a84e87b-c045-408c-9828-b1aba2185a0a@isocpp.org>
 <p1q591$cqe$1@blaine.gmane.org>
Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c0d273627d429056124370b"
X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514182941 29350 195.159.176.226 (25 Dec 2017 06:22:21 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 06:22:21 +0000 (UTC)
To: std-proposals@isocpp.org
Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCG3XHNI6IDRBEFTQLJAKGQEB23NN3A@isocpp.org Mon Dec 25 07:22:16 2017
Return-path: <std-proposals+bncBCG3XHNI6IDRBEFTQLJAKGQEB23NN3A@isocpp.org>
Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org
Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f72.google.com ([74.125.82.72])
	by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <std-proposals+bncBCG3XHNI6IDRBEFTQLJAKGQEB23NN3A@isocpp.org>)
	id 1eTM9O-00075R-BL
	for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 07:22:14 +0100
Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f72.google.com with SMTP id a141sf6727189wma.8
        for <gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org>; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:24:17 -0800 (PST)
ARC-Seal: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; t=1514183057; cv=pass;
        d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
        b=hTr2OaTh9VB5H+kuAkWZXB9UpytnpLDRDSNd9lNazO48Bvt0IXLdikgAInPCVzXAKI
         9Cb6aCCSksHnVdmmOFXbYMK2shhlUHb7MW9ouyeuB5Til7WxVb7P0BdCTA3FOEj7ytnb
         1dLSa77wBxw9lbXvm/ZE134NisKDE20IqgCvO6O7PSvQnZ40oxFiR9OpBWotipWX/hno
         NAkS2ddGTUsLngT34xUL/RDqIXchpDxvbsbPoKzMAE6cwpmcUEO/lmKa43LmzLc1yM0f
         OgKJtgiwUk4Ihwe5NSFJnQTIG24FY/qZldsf+L3wSo4zvkcTXJJojpweDgTAwSSsqEUN
         lOYw==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
        h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post
         :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:date
         :from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:arc-authentication-results
         :arc-message-signature:dkim-signature:arc-authentication-results;
        bh=45iTjUoimSaw2tfVcu8QY94cQHvpHWP9ewuDwdHR2eM=;
        b=fwZ348b/rTIf7BmKJJu70cBvEYD4kDTHFUB+6og7VeqPV8YX1hEC6e6glNCGJjzyJR
         FjtgZ1KMeWpz1w9F5vAAugvL0sgdcXVxMfteL3Txll8vbKGgioO8pwiCoxLraS2yfb97
         Bt1wsfQJQz+O2qApHPzDjl5UB+kZ0vRmt7Gsn7Fv6vvO2umBAs+yqG92cI9rR/hnOaW/
         j70v3u/nfOYF88e25rCvDdb7hyQceHQd17wG2qsBwxMkF8RNcOMhtD9yT0rf+mJqjzb0
         0NB6xRT5xVLnbNMAgoaOh2PK0GchvYlvvXu0H2E8gBCJRm64B7iClRa2erjtt7lZiyFW
         U2OQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; mx.google.com;
       dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Xsoyn9/M;
       spf=pass (google.com: domain of bastienpenava@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.65 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bastienpenava@gmail.com;
       dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623;
        h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to
         :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to
         :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive
         :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe;
        bh=45iTjUoimSaw2tfVcu8QY94cQHvpHWP9ewuDwdHR2eM=;
        b=LcXKptGGDy5Jz5l9Tt5YWc0InSzo89HGl5gFnPVNZGNW0Gf7w/iubVex8vOCKLYWeF
         TOxXzIG/hCjb7SG6krb3Se1cCbLFu9bjTxxmZOOs8CqDaA1gfKMwLaefjioocVoO595K
         011NioQxGn1btBGBXRuw3JVqLyGdGpk17k+IuQHjSfZc3eAqCmugpOofi0sYnW39oem+
         8LDoqAYca6Whor1bQCeFf+CrxCHHtYsnTbbOQxYuEVOO63aplUuI1pEnqYXKdbq/EArx
         ds+lUHKNZWdegyxyOXKwzcc2TB3efInIMo0pux1dqig9HvZoDLxPBg32h1Ze2lnYmmYm
         9Ong==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=1e100.net; s=20161025;
        h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date
         :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender
         :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list
         :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive
         :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe;
        bh=45iTjUoimSaw2tfVcu8QY94cQHvpHWP9ewuDwdHR2eM=;
        b=WAGf5itCVOJE0VB3VITl0raBDfpTP1hK81pNgZ6RVBI8TGAhLO2JNDx7JEtKXvmSwO
         k+67fnqBugXfbEMS0FxWgnv0FPId+ZtYvJQXMUfCTJZIUj206kb3mcgEuH26YZmNH7Bf
         HglL0mk3aFjCggsWrp6gBwLImRQ9Xjgvn/ho2Oy2yvsY10LZz7diAJAkJMQ8YwEleEP9
         jcLku/YudhoMV0cjG+RgVO5W+OfSIkQWweoV5fVYpCQR/gCRS1MEKk/mgjBGLxAavLza
         /7VL7yEyTwjbmN/KZ3eVP8oDvcUQlALjFIRHABaMbqixikpLhJsYHccO0jBDiTbsx5XA
         0idQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJC2zpaeSGptehBkjEbOz3K+39gUNryCWOaLyDOn4g5o2KZXqYd
	Y5K5gNbD5y7jztAl9o2lQuHD/Q==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBouxoU5gBvNU/YEH8g9Cw5eHn4xqbOJs3PQDtoYiCx1gbN22cDq6xnJxH8+7sFy54PvdL945zQ==
X-Received: by 10.223.176.107 with SMTP id g40mr2269806wra.14.1514183057128;
        Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:24:17 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org
Original-Received: by 10.223.193.73 with SMTP id w9ls2535412wre.7.gmail; Sun, 24 Dec
 2017 22:24:16 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 10.223.201.9 with SMTP id m9mr13702865wrh.274.1514183055994;
        Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:24:15 -0800 (PST)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1514183055; cv=none;
        d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
        b=XctmmyX8cTeL2Qb3Iu0SXTQXaWSaXPK0uHscqdHJ3tCTIw1oKFyGBnfg5WIKjPM7fm
         O25XjbjrVjqFOOQKaEkRs6CkbD4zaP9ajgO+6d+McE7sltG0awfVt3GAIzHA37xUhA6l
         amv4D3PAS4Apxa9t/Nak/9ipNdSa8ZGvtZLxN+b454VnYYXcpUEA8zRYHZKnpCiLEDDH
         8AT+p1swOXULdh/JZSvqc7opQ3+L1Gm+UnFBBfyqIYQvreF699tBEXHPM3OTsdtnanIi
         FmlwErwsblhLyBHYe4BZ+PVwe3c2uRlyVIsxjoz+O4EAv1JmZqDe0MBK0qsL2ZfaSK+t
         rD9A==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
        h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version
         :dkim-signature:arc-authentication-results;
        bh=bPd0EnmOS/7kF0Cl8DEt1EVrZZi7HqIizpSo7ZNqJwM=;
        b=IjBVzQIrpQeLMdPe68W1+R2+ZZrSl7R/pQZiUN+xY+IKhTM9EVp68RpRI0hqMFGEOL
         PsWcfENf9ybSo1CrZR5xbuYBEYEg0wLk080DmYTwfyDYWp4nk9qo0WKBT9OsvlDXA54Y
         6QdFxfwMvrDBdfdYAu8cga3YDsXZckIjHW2mNyPVsJkbQUkGqAE5nwnUDdytQOhdctBW
         Dt2Oy7cYKqtxaheIBVSBwzqZQfuJDf3h2MOtzw9PiSdOpEWuw9bWQZ98vrjvJQjRxwcc
         XL2KBV9KXSX5y4urG1AI+qF89A/mtJueJxWXL7oC/f6tC7eXOXVCN820E+f+CfB4Q/K2
         UhQA==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
       dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Xsoyn9/M;
       spf=pass (google.com: domain of bastienpenava@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.65 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bastienpenava@gmail.com;
       dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com
Original-Received: from mail-sor-f65.google.com (mail-sor-f65.google.com. [209.85.220.65])
        by mx.google.com with SMTPS id o40sor599263wrc.55.2017.12.24.22.24.15
        for <std-proposals@isocpp.org>
        (Google Transport Security);
        Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:24:15 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bastienpenava@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.65 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.65;
X-Received: by 10.223.133.66 with SMTP id 60mr19469162wrh.49.1514183055626;
 Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:24:15 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <p1q591$cqe$1@blaine.gmane.org>
X-Original-Sender: BastienPenava@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;       dkim=pass
 header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Xsoyn9/M;       spf=pass
 (google.com: domain of bastienpenava@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.65 as
 permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bastienpenava@gmail.com;       dmarc=pass
 (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org
List-ID: <std-proposals.isocpp.org>
X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org
X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710
List-Post: <https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/post>, <mailto:std-proposals@isocpp.org>
List-Help: <https://support.google.com/a/isocpp.org/bin/topic.py?topic=25838>, <mailto:std-proposals+help@isocpp.org>
List-Archive: <https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/>
List-Subscribe: <https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/subscribe>,
 <mailto:std-proposals+subscribe@isocpp.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:googlegroups-manage+399137483710+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>,
 <https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/subscribe>
Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:36333
Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals/36333>

--94eb2c0d273627d429056124370b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Le lun. 25 d=C3=A9c. 2017 =C3=A0 07:21, Jim Porter <jvp4846@g.rit.edu> a =
=C3=A9crit :

> On 12/24/2017 10:28 PM, Nicol Bolas wrote:
> > And code like this is certainly not limited to "library writers". Not
> > unless C++ gets lifting lambdas/overload set lambdas (and that's sadly
> > unlikely at this point).
>
> Does that mean "not likely to get *ever*" or "not likely to get in the
> immediate future"? I haven't followed the overload set stuff very
> closely (too busy with other things, unfortunately), but I was
> cautiously excited for it when the papers for it first showed up.
>
> - Jim
>
if you are talking about overload sets as values it will be availble
through reflexpr.

>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/topic/std-proposals/rpIWOw1Yd1c/=
unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org.
> To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/p1q591%24cqe=
%241%40blaine.gmane.org
> .
>

--=20
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "=
ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e=
mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org.
To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp=
..org/d/msgid/std-proposals/CAOhm51GU_jQzBuvZSfJZibFq%3D%2B2SSsvgNn-frAA72yh=
MLOLedA%40mail.gmail.com.

--94eb2c0d273627d429056124370b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">Le=C2=A0lun. 25 d=C3=
=A9c. 2017 =C3=A0 07:21, Jim Porter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jvp4846@g.rit.edu=
">jvp4846@g.rit.edu</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">On 12/24/2017 10:28 PM, Nicol Bolas wrote:<br>
&gt; And code like this is certainly not limited to &quot;library writers&q=
uot;. Not<br>
&gt; unless C++ gets lifting lambdas/overload set lambdas (and that&#39;s s=
adly<br>
&gt; unlikely at this point).<br>
<br>
Does that mean &quot;not likely to get *ever*&quot; or &quot;not likely to =
get in the<br>
immediate future&quot;? I haven&#39;t followed the overload set stuff very<=
br>
closely (too busy with other things, unfortunately), but I was<br>
cautiously excited for it when the papers for it first showed up.<br>
<br>
- Jim<br>
</blockquote><div dir=3D"auto">if you are talking about overload sets as va=
lues it will be availble through reflexpr.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><br>
--<br>
You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Goog=
le Groups &quot;ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals&quot; group.<br>
To unsubscribe from this topic, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/=
a/isocpp.org/d/topic/std-proposals/rpIWOw1Yd1c/unsubscribe" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/topic/std-pr=
oposals/rpIWOw1Yd1c/unsubscribe</a>.<br>
To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to <a href=
=3D"mailto:std-proposals%2Bunsubscribe@isocpp.org" target=3D"_blank">std-pr=
oposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org</a>.<br>
To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:std-proposals@isocpp=
..org" target=3D"_blank">std-proposals@isocpp.org</a>.<br>
To view this discussion on the web visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.c=
om/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/p1q591%24cqe%241%40blaine.gmane.org" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org=
/d/msgid/std-proposals/p1q591%24cqe%241%40blaine.gmane.org</a>.<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

<p></p>

-- <br />
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &=
quot;ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals&quot; group.<br />
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e=
mail to <a href=3D"mailto:std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org">std-proposa=
ls+unsubscribe@isocpp.org</a>.<br />
To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:std-proposals@isocpp=
..org">std-proposals@isocpp.org</a>.<br />
To view this discussion on the web visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.c=
om/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/CAOhm51GU_jQzBuvZSfJZibFq%3D%2B2SSsvg=
Nn-frAA72yhMLOLedA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter"=
>https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/CAOhm51GU_jQz=
BuvZSfJZibFq%3D%2B2SSsvgNn-frAA72yhMLOLedA%40mail.gmail.com</a>.<br />

--94eb2c0d273627d429056124370b--

.
