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Il giorno luned=C3=AC 18 dicembre 2017 14:22:06 UTC+1, Osman Zakir ha scrit=
to:
>
> I originally wanted to asking about Coroutines as well, but then I read=
=20
> that thread titled "coroutines have odd interaction with std algorithms"=
=20
> and decided against it since it seems like there are obviously some=20
> problems with the Coroutines TS right now - hopefully we'll get one of th=
e=20
> better versions Nicol talked about when it's all said and done.
>

I believe you are overstating the "obvious problems" with the Coroutine TS.=
=20
The TS has been approved and published. I don't know if and when it will be=
=20
merged in the standard, Ville didn't mention it and surely he is more=20
knowledgeable than me about that. However, I find it hard to believe that=
=20
all that work will be thrown away to follow another competing proposal. A=
=20
more  probable scenario is to have some incremental changes to the TS to=20
allow stackful coroutines in some form, either before or after merging.=20
Just my opinion.

Disclaimer: I like the Coroutine TS as it is and would be more than happy=
=20
to have it in the standard soon.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Il giorno luned=C3=AC 18 dicembre 2017 14:22:06 UTC+1,=
 Osman Zakir ha scritto:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: =
0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"display:inline!important;float:none;backgrou=
nd-color:transparent;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:=
normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-decoratio=
n:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px">I originally wanted to asking about Coroutines as well, but then I rea=
d that thread titled &quot;coroutines have odd interaction with std algorit=
hms&quot; and decided against it since it seems like there are obviously so=
me problems with the Coroutines TS right now - hopefully we&#39;ll get one =
of the better versions Nicol talked about when it&#39;s all said and done.<=
/span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I believe you are overst=
ating the &quot;obvious problems&quot; with the Coroutine TS. The TS has be=
en approved and published. I don&#39;t know if and when it will be merged i=
n the standard, Ville didn&#39;t mention it and surely he is more knowledge=
able than me about that. However, I find it hard to believe that all that w=
ork will be thrown away to follow another competing proposal. A more=C2=A0 =
probable scenario is to have some incremental changes to the TS to allow st=
ackful coroutines in some form, either before or after merging. Just my opi=
nion.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Disclaimer: I like the Coroutine TS as i=
t is and would be more than happy to have it in the standard soon.<br></div=
></div>

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