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On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Nevin Liber <nevin@eviloverlord.com> wrote:

> This constructor is unnecessary unless you want to differentiate between
> C-string literals and raw pointers (which is a breaking change BTW).
>

Technically, it doesn't have to be a breaking change, as long as all it
does is define behavior for:


> const char s[] = { 'H', 'e', 'l', 'l', 'o' };
> string_view b(s);
>
> Right now:
>
> b.size() // UB
>

I don't see that as particularly useful.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Nevin Liber <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nevin@eviloverlord.com" target=3D"_blank">nevin@=
eviloverlord.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-col=
or:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>This constructor is unnecessary unle=
ss you want to differentiate between C-string literals and raw pointers (wh=
ich is a breaking change BTW).</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br=
></div><div>Technically, it doesn&#39;t have to be a breaking change, as lo=
ng as all it does is define behavior for:</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:=
1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div>const char s[] =3D { &#39;H&#39;, &#39;e&#39;, &#39;l&#39;, &#39;l&#=
39;, &#39;o&#39; };</div><div>string_view b(s);</div><div><br></div><div>Ri=
ght now:</div><div><br></div><div>b.size() // UB</div></div></div></div></b=
lockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t see that as particularly useful.<=
/div><div>--=C2=A0<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=C2=A0Nevin &quot;:-)&quot; Liber=C2=A0=
 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:nevin@eviloverlord.com" target=3D"_blank">nev=
in@eviloverlord.com</a>&gt; =C2=A0+1-847-691-1404</div></div></div></div></=
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