220 33625 article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Bouchard Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: Deterministic C++ memory manager Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 11:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 232 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <68af3311-d2d7-42ff-8cfd-f8bcdc20bf0c@isocpp.org> <4398822.Pm5k2y7gIr@tjmaciei-mobl1> <4729d236-c2ae-409a-a023-102e6c8bb0d5@isocpp.org> <1702971.pEYQYCCQ6l@tjmaciei-mobl1> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2469_523266244.1502043172881" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502043177 17985 195.159.176.226 (6 Aug 2017 18:12:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 18:12:57 +0000 (UTC) To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCAYTFXFZMBBBJNYTXGAKGQEUPGNMVQ@isocpp.org Sun Aug 06 20:12:53 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-it0-f71.google.com ([209.85.214.71]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1deQ2i-00046Q-FK for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; 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Sorry, didn't catch that silly phone typ= o=20 >>> until I've already hit send. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 7:18 PM Micha=C5=82 Dominiak = wrote: >>> >>>> This is actually not what copyright is for, though, which is apparent= =20 >>>> from a certain boost thread of the original poster. What he wants is a= =20 >>>> petent protection, but I don't believe this idea is anywhere near bein= g as=20 >>>> new as he thinks (and as would be in any sensible patent system to act= ually=20 >>>> get a patent for it). >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 6:37 PM Thiago Macieira =20 >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 6 August 2017 06:52:41 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >>>>> > Well I don't have the protection of a software patent and if my=20 >>>>> library >>>>> > gets rejected by ISO then it'll surely be plagiarized by=20 >>>>> corporations. >>>>> >>>>> That's what copyright is for. >>>>> >>>>> By the way, ISO is not interested in importing a library as-is. You= =20 >>>>> need to >>>>> write a paper that describes what the implementation needs to do. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org >>>>> Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 >>>>> Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d=20 >>>>> an email to std-proposal...@isocpp.org. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to std-pr...@isocpp.org. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/1702971.= pEYQYCCQ6l%40tjmaciei-mobl1 >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to std-proposal...@isocpp.org . >> To post to this group, send email to std-pr...@isocpp.org . >> To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/f090ce52-3b= 6d-438b-ae87-01562a8ab6ef%40isocpp.org=20 >> >> . >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. 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Thanks for your advice but my goal is to create a library = that doesn't need support ;)

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 1:55:4= 3 PM UTC-4, dgutson wrote:
Use a good free software license and if your library os good = enough, people may pay you for support.=C2=A0

El 6 ago. 2017 2:30 p.m., "Phil Bouchard" <phili...@gma= il.com> escribi=C3=B3:
And a patent, I think, takes years to get which = is a little bit counterproductive in the software industry.

On Sunda= y, August 6, 2017 at 1:19:39 PM UTC-4, Micha=C5=82 Dominiak wrote:

Patent, not petent protection= .. Sorry, didn't catch that silly phone typo until I've already hit = send.


On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 7:18 P= M Micha=C5=82 Dominiak <gri...@griwes.info> w= rote:

This is actual= ly not what copyright is for, though, which is apparent from a certain boos= t thread of the original poster. What he wants is a petent protection, but = I don't believe this idea is anywhere near being as new as he thinks (a= nd as would be in any sensible patent system to actually get a patent for i= t).


On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 6:37 P= M Thiago Macieira <thi...@macieira.org> wrote= :
On Sunday, 6 August 2017 06:52:41= PDT Phil Bouchard wrote:
> Well I don't have the protection of a software patent and if my li= brary
> gets rejected by ISO then it'll surely be plagiarized by corporati= ons.

That's what copyright is for.

By the way, ISO is not interested in importing a library as-is. You need to=
write a paper that describes what the implementation needs to do.

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center

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