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On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 1:19:39 PM UTC-4, Micha=C5=82 Dominiak wrote: > > Patent, not petent protection. Sorry, didn't catch that silly phone typo= =20 > until I've already hit send. > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 7:18 PM Micha=C5=82 Dominiak > wrote: > >> This is actually not what copyright is for, though, which is apparent=20 >> from a certain boost thread of the original poster. What he wants is a= =20 >> petent protection, but I don't believe this idea is anywhere near being = as=20 >> new as he thinks (and as would be in any sensible patent system to actua= lly=20 >> get a patent for it). >> >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 6:37 PM Thiago Macieira > > wrote: >> >>> On Sunday, 6 August 2017 06:52:41 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >>> > Well I don't have the protection of a software patent and if my libra= ry >>> > gets rejected by ISO then it'll surely be plagiarized by corporations= .. >>> >>> That's what copyright is for. >>> >>> By the way, ISO is not interested in importing a library as-is. You nee= d=20 >>> to >>> write a paper that describes what the implementation needs to do. >>> >>> -- >>> Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org >>> Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 >>> Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 >>> an email to std-proposal...@isocpp.org . >>> To post to this group, send email to std-pr...@isocpp.org = .. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >>> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/1702971.pE= YQYCCQ6l%40tjmaciei-mobl1 >>> . >>> >> --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. 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And a patent, I think, takes years to get which is a littl= e bit counterproductive in the software industry.

On Sunday, August = 6, 2017 at 1:19:39 PM UTC-4, Micha=C5=82 Dominiak wrote:

Patent, not petent protection. S= orry, didn't catch that silly phone typo until I've already hit sen= d.


On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 7:18 P= M Micha=C5=82 Dominiak <gri...@griwes.info> wrote:

This is actually not what copyright is= for, though, which is apparent from a certain boost thread of the original= poster. What he wants is a petent protection, but I don't believe this= idea is anywhere near being as new as he thinks (and as would be in any se= nsible patent system to actually get a patent for it).


On Sun, Aug 6, 2017, 6:37 P= M Thiago Macieira <thi...@macieira.org> wrote:
On Sunday, 6 August 2017 06:52:41 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote:=
> Well I don't have the protection of a software patent and if my li= brary
> gets rejected by ISO then it'll surely be plagiarized by corporati= ons.

That's what copyright is for.

By the way, ISO is not interested in importing a library as-is. You need to=
write a paper that describes what the implementation needs to do.

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center

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