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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s127si8095682lja.34.2017.04.03.12.49.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::231 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of admin@griwes.info) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::231; Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id z15so81622963lfd.1 for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:49:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.25.29.66 with SMTP id d63mr6378289lfd.163.1491248947895; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:49:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <94ec7963-cf01-4bda-bb64-5d3ccd3d4109@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: griwes@griwes.info X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@griwes-info.20150623.gappssmtp.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::231 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of admin@griwes.info) smtp.mailfrom=admin@griwes.info Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:31974 Archived-At: --001a1140331ecfbf62054c4873c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:42 PM wrote: > >> This is not a significant enough benefit to be worth the hassle of > adding > >> another language feature, not to mention the many years of both being > >> available. > > I think we should consider it at least. Not the biggest problem but > > I think we have wasted far more time on this non-starter than we should > have. > > > This is a real world problem not a theoretical one. I wasted so many time > debating on how should I declare a variable, what should we enforce. > The split coding style and code bases is a fact. This proposal can solve > this problem. > > The solution to "too many ways to declare a variable" is supposed to be "add more ways to declare a variable"? > > Peter > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. > To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/94ec7963-cf01-4bda-bb64-5d3ccd3d4109%40isocpp.org > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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On Mon, Apr 3,= 2017 at 9:42 PM <hun.nemet= hpeter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is not a significant enough benefit to be worth the = hassle of adding
>> another language feature, not to mention t= he many years of both being
>> available.
> I think we should consider it at least. Not th= e biggest problem but

I think we have wasted far more time on this non-st= arter than we should have.

This is a real world problem not a theoretical one. I wasted so m= any time debating on how should I declare a variable, what should we enforc= e.
The split coding style and code bases is a= fact. This proposal can solve this problem.
=

The so= lution to "too many ways to declare a variable" is supposed to be= "add more ways to declare a variable"?
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Peter=C2=A0

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