220 31899 article Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nicol Bolas Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: This variable should not be named: an identifier (not) to remember Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 61 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <985b9b2a-c734-45eb-95f4-db4dc0d309a1@isocpp.org> <00f80877-4564-406b-9dc5-d2d961b8dce3@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2021_219455901.1490884569867" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1490884580 31481 195.159.176.226 (30 Mar 2017 14:36:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:36:20 +0000 (UTC) To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCEKFTV6ZUMBBWVP6TDAKGQEQ7IHOMQ@isocpp.org Thu Mar 30 16:36:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-io0-f197.google.com ([209.85.223.197]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ctbBF-0006qI-KX for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:36:05 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-io0-f197.google.com with SMTP id y85sf14425588iof.23 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:36:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=Td4MM62R1if8AbGdjh9ZS3r8RNiFrwxEx3B9hBZv03M=; b=QzC5fxbJIQkzg48jUKJaiXom7cEzC5WI/86PG4KAbuDstbyVvSQXS+y7x7oWrkmEEk Ncq5DaceZ+N+hheqkTim6WCR3DEsA0ShKSjAA/Q13XBJaYpOHVOziffPiAP9LteAVIaj YEGrD+l410uk02ZqreNJB4lb+mpfClLsdHqqR++OlwRsif9c2G6fC+cIT3jAGl9Ndc3h iELuwCS1pEZJPT2tuqelVOZxWsJ8Jp9pMfXmg/icLdFSHtx0mqKADZqiuyVXgtQT2tbK HGuBylaBj9YjmFJkW3fslbs0zGUGrDWG7kIQXaBQcu6T58qV0QYa0a5R8lIcRo+s0niN WTZQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=Td4MM62R1if8AbGdjh9ZS3r8RNiFrwxEx3B9hBZv03M=; b=eowFqNgTZYtSz6+EcvBCLpJknON2iO149VYf7zqgnvVWOwm/e4k/5ExSo1YzDCQPmX 3Yf1UxePntSWJzxsucP6u4vXGvLVzu5x3tL9avnPzj486gJSEOTW1PA/sd3NP7MkpxFi ZpQ6ykdzFtfiRYk53TlSNmtqT/8fuXJv07d61T47XUkUYeZ7cgIJTjIiQe0VYnR4gd2l X40mya8ST6UoClFVD8ZDc4k14Q5K7VUZ1lCYz7zEYRVC1N+Ks61+aDTq7QzEx5W6fs9x SDs+UAgENE31GgtAHlY1Y98B4ng+nwloT0L+V8pfu7NKbTfd+b0KTp6mvltqazoIf07H ez1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=Td4MM62R1if8AbGdjh9ZS3r8RNiFrwxEx3B9hBZv03M=; b=Nw+/hFWXCjP8DVEcLdWKyeS8aluFF1tsWuchUP+t2KAt2SyCCgcKacvyM6DE6lLsYA IKVBCXz6j8cIjCHrodqgFLmOZGJfzI/uVvcP7x7T2yB99PXe2NHAewWkOKG+bOwBmsEC IFP86Qy6+6TQHmrgl7yOFYecVbYuBdi4N1IeZrHLjC2UpsdDHeYW3BHxa756jk7VJLJi ghQzRwl3zG9OiFkjyaS29z67g5Y+0xt0Imn7YVdVaoiq9/OcY1/r0usvHHf49vConvef SOHoN+y5Bk5aE3Pg8YDbVq3GynkpHsaDzAJ/uOB1lRjVp+mSesmoX4KVgzH3P0idgdsz bm9g== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H2Rid5H7vHfBl+vKAph6Dj2BrefqhAYtjrmEuAl+64Zs3H/2MVvtrMKfzwmnHWlcA== X-Received: by 10.36.211.18 with SMTP id n18mr1299069itg.22.1490884571284; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:36:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.157.39.115 with SMTP id r106ls132458ota.10.gmail; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:36:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.38.101 with SMTP id a92mr5646otb.20.1490884570487; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:36:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00f80877-4564-406b-9dc5-d2d961b8dce3@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: jmckesson@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:31899 Archived-At: ------=_Part_2021_219455901.1490884569867 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2022_861500445.1490884569868" ------=_Part_2022_861500445.1490884569868 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 4:12:46 AM UTC-4, Raffaele Rossi wrote: > > Wouldn't it be much better to have a concept of Context? > Why would I want to introduce a whole new scope when simply declaring an unnamed variable is sufficient? It's adding pointless braces for something that C++ gives by default. Other languages use this syntax because they *don't* provide RAII by default. C++ does, so there's no need for explicit syntax to say what we normally have. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/ee6468dd-02b5-4fe8-a669-8a11d753489c%40isocpp.org. ------=_Part_2022_861500445.1490884569868 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 4:12:46 AM UTC-4, Raffaele = Rossi wrote:
<= div>Wouldn't it be much better to have a concept of Context?

Why would I want to introduce a whole new scope when= simply declaring an unnamed variable is sufficient? It's adding pointl= ess braces for something that C++ gives by default.

Other languages = use this syntax because they don't provide RAII by default. C++ = does, so there's no need for explicit syntax to say what we normally ha= ve.

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