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[178.140.146.214]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id l14sm9892498ljb.66.2017.02.26.04.14.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Feb 2017 04:14:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1582114.YO2EXH4VTc@tjmaciei-mobl1> X-Original-Sender: andrey.semashev@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of andrey.semashev@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=andrey.semashev@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:31152 Archived-At: On 02/26/17 03:15, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Em s=C3=A1bado, 25 de fevereiro de 2017, =C3=A0s 15:34:08 PST, Bo Persson= escreveu: >> On 2017-02-25 20:46, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>> Em s=C3=A1bado, 25 de fevereiro de 2017, =C3=A0s 03:37:57 PST, Bo Perss= on escreveu: >>>>> int =C2=B7 =3D 0; >>>>> >>>>> But this isn't valid C++: >>>>> >>>>> int =E2=8B=85 =3D 0; > >> I don't know if this is an argument for or against the proposal, but as >> my news reader doesn't want to show hex codes, I copied the text to >> another program. There they both showed up as B7. > > That's weird. U+00B7 is listed in "see also" for U+22C5, but it should ne= ver > have been normalised to it. Nothing in the Unicode data files call for it= .. So > the problem is in your MUA. > > I'm glad we're not developing C++ in email clients. > > Homography by itself is not a reason for the C++ committee to deny the us= e > requested by the OP. I think on the contrary - it is a very good reason to prohibit such=20 characters in identifiers, keywords and operators. Anywhere where a=20 wrong character is able to subvert the program meaning, the character=20 should be clearly distinguishable from any other allowed character. If=20 this is not currently the case, I consider it a mistake. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. 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