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By many reasons. > Can you list some of them? Because many languages' standard libraries have a distinction between the every-day string type and "string builder" types. Java and C# being prominent examples. The only problem with C++'s stringstream is the cost of moving strings into/outof them. And that proposal would remove that cost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/85aefeb5-3c83-47de-a91d-3aef22d6a1ec%40isocpp.org. ------=_Part_6399_1584014477.1487691061604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:31:33 AM UTC-5, Victor = Dyachenko wrote:
Streams are NOT alternative to std::string! By many reasons.

Can you list some of them? Because many languages' = standard libraries have a distinction between the every-day string type and= "string builder" types. Java and C# being prominent examples.

The only problem with C++'s st= ringstream is the cost of moving strings into/outof them. And that proposal= would remove that cost.

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