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[78.47.120.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o125si3835493lfo.317.2017.02.16.10.28.55 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 78.47.120.188 as permitted sender) client-ip=78.47.120.188; Original-Received: from tjmaciei-mobl1.localnet (jfdmzpr05-ext.jf.intel.com [134.134.139.74]) by gondolin.macieira.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15C9311AC08; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:28:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8ace2b75-b403-4fc1-bb05-e6cf14e57cef@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: thiago@macieira.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 78.47.120.188 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=thiago@macieira.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:30950 Archived-At: On quinta-feira, 16 de fevereiro de 2017 07:05:27 PST 'Walt Karas' via ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals wrote: > Sorry, I did not mean "allow" in a strict sense. > > In reality, in the current, widely used architectures, multi-core threading > does rely on per-thread partial copying of "global", shared base memory. > Intuitively, it's possible that a model that more explicitly reflects this > might be clearer and cleaner. 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