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[2607:f8b0:400c:c08::230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j17si3412359vka.45.2016.12.17.10.18.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c08::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c08::230; Original-Received: by mail-ua0-x230.google.com with SMTP id b35so39844178uaa.0 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:18:08 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.159.38.111 with SMTP id 102mr7336259uag.155.1481998688647; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:18:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.103.50.74 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:18:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: ville.voutilainen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c08::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ville.voutilainen@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:29883 Archived-At: On 17 December 2016 at 20:14, Jonathan M=C3=BCller wrote: >> I don't think "might be harmful" is a good enough reason to not have the >> type. > > I think it's a very compelling reason. I rather have types that can be us= ed > without thinking, because misuse is a compiler error. Then by all means use indirect and don't use cloned_ptr. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp= ..org/d/msgid/std-proposals/CAFk2RUZgjH_%3DjhtpYDnJGaas%2B__xHp-ATUi156DtAkG= pcQM6Eg%40mail.gmail.com. .