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> On 12 October 2016 at 13:50, Victor Dyachenko=20
> <victor.d...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:=20
> > For C++ we have at least Qt and wxWigets. Why do we need to put them=20
> into=20
>
> I don't recall anyone suggesting putting Qt or wxWidgets into the=20
> standard.=20
>
> At least Qt is not fit here, definitely. Technically you have to do toooo=
o=20
much work to work around with [intro.refs], for example.

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> > Standard? To have big deprecated parts in the Standard in the future?=
=20
>
> Why would such deprecation be necessary?=20
>
> > Why don't we have universal GUI library in C++? Because there is no the=
=20
> only=20
> > way to implement GUI.=20
>
> There's not only one way to implement most of the standard library,=20
> which is one reason why=20
> it doesn't mandate any particular implementation, so that's a non-issue.=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>=E5=9C=A8 2016=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8812=E6=97=A5=E6=
=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E4=B8=89 UTC+8=E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=886:54:53=EF=BC=8CVille Vouti=
lainen=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex=
;">On 12 October 2016 at 13:50, Victor Dyachenko
<br>&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"=
qErxKrhXAQAJ" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D&#39;javascript:&=
#39;;return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true=
;">victor.d...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt; For C++ we have at least Qt and wxWigets. Why do we need to put th=
em into
<br>
<br>I don&#39;t recall anyone suggesting putting Qt or wxWidgets into the s=
tandard.
<br>
<br></blockquote><div>At least Qt is not fit here, definitely. Technically =
you have to do=20
tooooo much work to work around with [intro.refs], for example.<br><br>=C2=
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: =
0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; Standard? To hav=
e big deprecated parts in the Standard in the future?
<br>
<br>Why would such deprecation be necessary?
<br>
<br>&gt; Why don&#39;t we have universal GUI library in C++? Because there =
is no the only
<br>&gt; way to implement GUI.
<br>
<br>There&#39;s not only one way to implement most of the standard library,
<br>which is one reason why
<br>it doesn&#39;t mandate any particular implementation, so that&#39;s a n=
on-issue.
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