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Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Stabilize the numeric types in all platforms Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:20:46 +0100 Lines: 62 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0dbf08aa3d5053aa8eaeb X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1471872054 10940 195.159.176.226 (22 Aug 2016 13:20:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:20:54 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCWNZ4ECS4GBBMHY5O6QKGQERVO5KIY@isocpp.org Mon Aug 22 15:20:50 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-lf0-f69.google.com ([209.85.215.69]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bbp9k-0002TY-M4 for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 15:20:48 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-f69.google.com with SMTP id e7sf74715978lfe.0 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=KCd58Mbi3fjGyy1OU+8qWWnCIRFN5Ky3d8i8daf4afk=; b=bATI6i7BcY46JaBhHA8MoLi8JYrZP3zc0mtlsL+P+OJnPs4L/zhteuULEwPVlFhEcP BVwRlwvzxfZ3XxXASX6jxKXUkuoKGXVsIuxiiFs4KoRCTKpsR0PvN/s05IAjgsuJubvN ISJvDqKqrhnTuAaARk53FpAI2THKfOeGDky5JYkaD/D8iytIuAg1+64n1igoijTnb2qh 0Vnojz2h7JZdcxcnXkIku1pH1vQUoWlcVphALhdS03rRCmc9dD7FD0TccNcVwk/gziRB Rjg3NWemSozOrMiiWRiTmZ/nlzzcpYbz7uHGSa2TX2L1/N9asyagIJg8aKNuW7bZ5ES4 2wtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=KCd58Mbi3fjGyy1OU+8qWWnCIRFN5Ky3d8i8daf4afk=; b=ECybXACHbFQpNYWdIY9wn5V4yLMO+uYp7AHWA4vkw/yfE7C0p9N8E3YNVU1n80beg2 wBgqDuZR1jVkNV0aVUYuDbI5WB6ZBfkD0WlXIUhwmf1kiyKKHW116iwHPxazuVLyLrZ3 F6Eh0UxfmvZboJN8g+fhp7VAS9n9tLgUnVZrIHrUWSvksaHa2R0YGifpLIZW35Rhwk9j rYrYRLFzrwo9HfV6VlUz5ETVdH4bPxFcwJFTlCdD9ZL1orW1kt5HqEw4YlsbTKKEln7X PZP1t9l1C7YkRlmveDNCnQmiJY1zScaTgbPf9EGty1QOnrLJaZarOdCTtdjhELdzNo86 uiZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuvtdff4wIzXiPt12HrYGBk/P4vs9//tpND+HisluudgXK5n7oA2ohL2iKxT74Uqw== X-Received: by 10.25.42.197 with SMTP id q188mr2954167lfq.7.1471872049227; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.28.46.72 with SMTP id u69ls2485470wmu.8.gmail; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.87.101 with SMTP id w5mr20343561wjz.94.1471872047909; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x242.google.com (mail-wm0-x242.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c09::242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 69si16238329wme.0.2016.08.22.06.20.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of db0451@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::242 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::242; Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x242.google.com with SMTP id i5so13464308wmg.2 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.70.165 with SMTP id n5mr17372518wju.135.1471872047422; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.28.15.15 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 06:20:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: db0451@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of db0451@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::242 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=db0451@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:27861 Archived-At: --047d7bf0dbf08aa3d5053aa8eaeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I must ask if you ever actually think or such before posting proposals, like whether there's a fundamental reason these things haven't been done already. In this case it's because the basic types are meant to map efficiently to the most appropriate types on the native platform. Just because you, me, and many other people use x64 does not mean that everyone else with different CPUs having different types and strengths must be bent to our whim. And those who need them, have the exact-width typedefs, Don't like their "uglies" names? Then make your own typedefs that wrap around them. The fundamental types will not be constrained to fixed widths just to fit your aesthetic preferences, nor will the naming in the stdlib. Please think before proposing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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I must ask if you ever actually think or such before = posting proposals, like whether there's a fundamental reason these thin= gs haven't been done already.

In this case it's because the = basic types are meant to map efficiently to the most appropriate types on t= he native platform. Just because you, me, and many other people use x64 doe= s not mean that everyone else with different CPUs having different types an= d strengths must be bent to our whim.

And those who need = them, have the exact-width typedefs, Don't like their "uglies"= ; names? Then make your own typedefs that wrap around them.

The fundamental types will not be constrained to fixed widths just to fi= t your aesthetic preferences, nor will the naming in the stdlib.

Please think before proposing.

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