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This is > probably what the others in this thread have said. > > You seem to want some new syntax for some very rare use case, not because > the current language means cannot handle that case, but because you dislike > those means, and, as far as I can tell, you have not given any substantial > technical reasons for your dislike. I doubt this will be universally > regarded as a problem worth fixing. > > Cheers, > V. > There is nothing more to state because the idea isn't complex. It is what it appears be - a simple syntax for a small problem where the existing syntax is workable but clumsy. If you're just saying you and the majority so far think it' isn't a problem worth fixing, I agree that's what they are saying and what I expected. But the idea is simple as is the problem so if it doesn't sell it self, it won't, so I won't defend it because it's pointless given what I believe. If people like the idea, great, if they don't, ok too, just argue amongst yourselves about it. 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On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 12:44:15 AM UTC+12,= Viacheslav Usov wrote:
<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:15 PM, <gmis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I th= ink we are in agreement=C2=A0that=C2=A0lambda's don't seem to be=C2= =A0solve=C2=A0this problem as cleanly as we'd like.

I think you have not demonstrated what "this problem" reall= y is. This is probably what the others in this thread have said.
=
You seem to want some new syntax for some very rare use case= , not because the current language means cannot handle that case, but becau= se you dislike those means, and, as far as I can tell, you have not given a= ny substantial technical reasons for your dislike. I doubt this will be uni= versally regarded as a problem worth fixing.

Cheer= s,
V.

The= re is nothing=C2=A0more to state because=C2=A0the idea isn't complex.= =C2=A0It is what it appears be -=C2=A0a simple syntax for a small problem w= here the existing syntax is workable but clumsy.=C2=A0If you're just sa= ying you and the majority=C2=A0so far think it' isn't a=C2=A0proble= m=C2=A0worth=C2=A0fixing,=C2=A0I agree that's what they are saying and = what I expected.=C2=A0But the idea is simple=C2=A0as is the problem=C2=A0so= if it doesn't=C2=A0sell it self,=C2=A0it won't, so I won't def= end it because it's=C2=A0pointless given what I believe. If people like= the idea, great, if they don't, ok too, just argue amongst yourselves = about it. If people get beyond=C2=A0just saying they don't like=C2=A0th= e idea=C2=A0or mischaracterising what I said to begin with on the subject,= =C2=A0I might join the conversation later, but until some more interesting = is said, leave me out of it.

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