220 26157 <39918e2f-8224-4b66-8ed5-6d1df51fb605@isocpp.org> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: alexander.zywicki@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Any interest to adding audio support to the std library? 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But the point of the proposal is not so much aimed > >> at codecs but rather at raw media processing. > > > > As replied to Alexander: that's not how patents work and raw processing= is not > > useful if you can't load a file or save your work. >=20 > I think patents are irrelevant in this proposal. I don't think anyone > patented the concept of audio samples or pixel representation, at > least not the conventional ones. >=20 > How you save and load these samples and which codecs you use is a > question of the available modules you have - whether these modules are > provided by your compiler or OS vendor or a third party or even your > hardware. For all I care, all this stuff could be handled by ffmpeg > internally. The codecs themselves need not be in the C++ standard. > What is needed is a standardized interface for these different modules > to work with each other. The interface should also allow me, the > developer, to work with the media (e.g. create my own audio or image > filter or a new codec or a new device driver). That is exactly what I intended=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp= ..org/d/msgid/std-proposals/39918e2f-8224-4b66-8ed5-6d1df51fb605%40isocpp.or= g. ------=_Part_1112_902969872.1464996587756-- .