220 26156 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrey Semashev Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Any interest to adding audio support to the std library? 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[2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i205si3710588oib.196.2016.06.03.16.20.16 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of andrey.semashev@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231; Original-Received: by mail-io0-x231.google.com with SMTP id k19so80612430ioi.3 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.36.44.200 with SMTP id i191mr2746344iti.99.1464996016461; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.79.12.23 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:20:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5290948.va25uYNizX@tjmaciei-mobl1> X-Original-Sender: andrey.semashev@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of andrey.semashev@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=andrey.semashev@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:26156 Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote= : > On s=C3=A1bado, 4 de junho de 2016 01:54:55 BRT Andrey Semashev wrote: >> > Considering the domain of media codecs is a patent minefield, the API >> > should be designed around never having access to the actual contents o= f >> > the frames, only that they exist. >> >> Well, regarding codecs, there are different ones, including the >> unencumbered ones. But the point of the proposal is not so much aimed >> at codecs but rather at raw media processing. > > As replied to Alexander: that's not how patents work and raw processing i= s not > useful if you can't load a file or save your work. I think patents are irrelevant in this proposal. I don't think anyone patented the concept of audio samples or pixel representation, at least not the conventional ones. How you save and load these samples and which codecs you use is a question of the available modules you have - whether these modules are provided by your compiler or OS vendor or a third party or even your hardware. For all I care, all this stuff could be handled by ffmpeg internally. The codecs themselves need not be in the C++ standard. What is needed is a standardized interface for these different modules to work with each other. The interface should also allow me, the developer, to work with the media (e.g. create my own audio or image filter or a new codec or a new device driver). --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp= ..org/d/msgid/std-proposals/CAEhD%2B6Ca%3Dj3SaS5nC_Qe%3D6FGMdJLgpQd1LnGfiep8= m9GrEU1jQ%40mail.gmail.com. .