220 26153 <2537589.a8BC4svcIn@tjmaciei-mobl1> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thiago Macieira Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Any interest to adding audio support to the std library? 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[2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q193si2226417wme.57.2016.06.03.16.02.48 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3; Original-Received: from tjmaciei-mobl1.localnet (unknown [187.10.168.134]) by gondolin.macieira.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 599F411B59A for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: KMail/5.1.3 (Linux/4.6.0-2.ged1c6ef-default; KDE/5.22.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: thiago@macieira.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=thiago@macieira.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:26153 Archived-At: On sexta-feira, 3 de junho de 2016 15:30:03 BRT alexander.zywicki@gmail.com wrote: > I feel that you may be missing the point of the library, in order to do any > "real" audio work you need direct access to the audio data. I might be missing your orignial intention, but nonetheless it is a valid concern and a very common (probably the most common) use-case for an audio API. > And yes I agree > that multimedia is a patent minefield but there are open source versions of > most media formats that could be used if needed. That's not how patents work. Please design your system without ever writing a line of code that reads directly from or writes directly to a file. I would say that uncompressed PCM is probably safe, but I am not a lawyer and I can't even say that (note: .wav files are not just plain PCM). Instead, write it so that it will work on a heavily locked-down system like iOS. > But that is besides the > point here, the library would only provide a standardized interface of how > to interact with audio(or other signal types) and place only the needed > constraints on the implementors of the library. The only guarantee that > needs to be made is that data will be delivered to and from the application > in the requested format if possible, the how will be OS specific and > implementation defined That's orthogonal to what I was asking. And somewhat useless if you can't play or record audio, nor load it from a file or save it after processing. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/d/msgid/std-proposals/2537589.a8BC4svcIn%40tjmaciei-mobl1. .