220 25411 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Heinsaar Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Serious omission of fundamental algorithms in STL Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 01:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 74 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <20160401071241.GA6991@noemi> <33a823b3-ad93-4651-a4d3-19d5b232d597@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_4706_122434165.1459499159170" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459499170 20255 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2016 08:26:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:26:10 +0000 (UTC) To: ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCFYDAXXQYEBBF7B7C3QKGQEZGBGZSY@isocpp.org Fri Apr 01 10:26:06 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-qg0-f71.google.com ([209.85.192.71]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aluP8-0002tm-FZ for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 10:26:06 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-qg0-f71.google.com with SMTP id y89sf113176209qge.2 for ; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 01:26:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isocpp-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=uxBVFAiC8JMm9wAyRUkiY9TURjkgMaMRzQZbbTnFWBY=; b=vjDzJ14jmtqJQ2o2MRPLeviSoRhMTEmlz4w8bbS+0ij7Ccnfdn7tKAQ+mz7PclMb0i c3PUXkjJ2u85VwMpVeJE0UFVGUgEeM/uNcWneOqVnO1uOvJryGOSrbbOAOWElxFd7o+R El1OUaEged+zJevevEZ8aNPV4DpbPbzkVqEbGxCGtVMITvxmSKoNuF5nk8fVbEPtx/+j GbI5KCUNbf3FmDgi0CDK1K9x34gWtZMUyivz/Gt6cBE+pHm3xlSimTsgnUIi2mgo3Jby QWhJPJITp/kndFSC8DVIYCg3Tz7gl3ZixVPUXRi/22jk81zzkIyIri53SkSFXNZRsNRL taGA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=uxBVFAiC8JMm9wAyRUkiY9TURjkgMaMRzQZbbTnFWBY=; b=Ij6LgulDCCS6/LsGn7OIOjDsSNPr2clxVzESj7FZui3j0JrfbW6AlStwJdZDQQSYer l1hdUnK8GNlB9e28VXmP0bsPSUp9t5uH90C7N0w1ltfdfJNpSWoTxYTJJin9ZC+aRAC9 rPL32C0Eo+bXcL6duYd5lWjFjCOfHRsJV5UGa8wHn7BpxTbFloJEa+HRFyVFqWZBZmpi ZJi7chXPqPP7Op7I2wr7R3MSOZVRE2YlyRAy45xTP9WDXuMWJM3bJJ6wvV5IlxUDjE5I AU0Mt25warsttm8CsAuRfRxjYL5yJNZBIT5PMEOuBXc4TlMFKUfZ+RvGbRBMKMIqnsMz QtnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=uxBVFAiC8JMm9wAyRUkiY9TURjkgMaMRzQZbbTnFWBY=; b=QkgcTu6M6lZjPahzv7HmD1j2DL24JJjQTLulN1Y25P7LGrsUWPcEJIJi4RwYHCR3XX yGAN8BiW5D3AKKtZN2xlVym60A8oFs2N3lCNsJvFCuTf4VVIUbNo0EcnZ3tLndE+w6Bx L6DpSt87IWxjkiGf3hIv2kGreqoXNQ8m0VxRCIxJZiYDf6l7rp/ixC77rgWrPc66747z P+NpPR/6Tikt8ogNhNSGdb46P++q5ydEnphp8XFkDJV4MVx05CWpDXtVtuRuJRf/WgED N2OtEU3AXSNtS/jTZiHX2ObOhrV9dPZJI5/0yOTCOC+kES07U+yBSn89IJxdZE9rjif7 GhfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJGNgponTJ9627gJQ+DU1E388qJbZNmR5Is0gfzqjNkLImsKt+eAtobLW8XS7SkDg== X-Received: by 10.140.93.85 with SMTP id c79mr2289871qge.28.1459499160620; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 01:26:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.107.184.195 with SMTP id i186ls438164iof.86.gmail; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 01:25:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.36.68 with SMTP id o4mr27174igj.1.1459499159733; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 01:25:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: leoheinsaar@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:25411 Archived-At: ------=_Part_4706_122434165.1459499159170 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4707_1561449863.1459499159170" ------=_Part_4707_1561449863.1459499159170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I would expect a broader study of fixes necessary for the library. We > should look at adding a std::ypoc as > the more intuitive spelling for std::reverse_copy, with the potential > intent to deprecate and remove the > completely non-intuitive status quo. Similarly, we should look at > completing the set of find-algorithms; > we have find_if, so we should probably also have find_else, find_for, > find_do and find_while, and potentially > also find_switch. In addition to that, if we have find_if_not, we > should probably also have find_if_and and > find_if_or. > Also a very useful bunch that totally deserves to be in the Standard. For example, find_or_else(begin, end, std::terminate) could send a very strong message to the program that it better find what I'm looking for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. 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I would expec= t a broader study of fixes necessary for the library. We
should look at adding a std::ypoc as
the more intuitive spelling for std::reverse_copy, with the potential
intent to deprecate and remove the
completely non-intuitive status quo. Similarly, we should look at
completing the set of find-algorithms;
we have find_if, so we should probably also have find_else, find_for,
find_do and find_while, and potentially
also find_switch. In addition to that, if we have find_if_not, we
should probably also have find_if_and and
find_if_or.

Also a very useful bunch that totally = deserves to be in the Standard.
For example, find_or_else(begin, end, std::terminate) could sen= d a very strong message to the program that it better find what I'm loo= king for.

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