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The books will be open in 2017, new > features will be made, I'm selfishly thinking of the needs on > my own turf. But why not do it in a way that is more general, > provides for multiple needs? > > > Yes... that's what /reflection/ will do. Your way is the more > special-case and restrictive way. > > > Are there other papers proposing support for reflection, besides p0255r0 = ? > Yes, look at http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/. Vicente --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 8:22:12 PM UTC-5, Nicol Bolas wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:53:26 PM UTC-5, Walt Karas wrote:
Personally I'm more interested in a generic endiance-swap function template.=C2=A0 The books will be op= en in 2017, new features will be made, I'm selfishly thinking of the needs on my own turf.=C2=A0 But why not do = it in a way that is more general, provides for multiple needs?

Yes... that's what reflection will do. Your way is the more special-case and restrictive way.

Are there other papers proposing support for reflection, besides p0255r0 ?

Yes, look at

http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/p= apers/2016/.

Vicente

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