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El 31/12/2015 19:08, "Thiago Macieira" <thiago@macieira.org> escribi=C3=B3:
>
> On Thursday 31 December 2015 14:11:47 dgutson . wrote:
> > El 31/12/2015 12:47, "Vincent Reverdy" <vince.rev@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:
> > > What do you mean?
> > > Do you think that sizeof(byte) should be equal to CHAR_BIT i= nstead of 1?
> >
> > One of the problems I see is that the size of byte might not be e= xpressed
> > in terms of (integer) number of chars.
>
> By definition, the size of a byte is 1, containing CHAR_BIT bits.

Could you please point me to such definition in the std?

>
> > Another issue is that I fail to see the benefits of having "= byte" other
> > than printing the numeric value, which can already be perfectly d= oable with
> > a type mapper:
>
> Same here.

What same?

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