220 20882 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrew Tomazos Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: Rough Draft Proposal of Interpolated String Literals Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 02:35:37 +0200 Lines: 84 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <043C43B5-72C9-4136-8D2F-2A3D745B2975@gmail.com> <6e2f4cfa-92d7-49e3-ad1a-5b0e0bb803b9@isocpp.org> <93bca85a-d265-4f44-bff5-0f6a009efb70@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bae4532587d310520c3e00a X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443400543 2602 80.91.229.3 (28 Sep 2015 00:35:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:35:43 +0000 (UTC) To: "std-proposals@isocpp.org" Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBD5KHQXXWYPRBWUWUKYAKGQELJKNOHA@isocpp.org Mon Sep 28 02:35:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f197.google.com ([209.85.212.197]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgMPr-0008BW-TK for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 02:35:39 +0200 Original-Received: by wicmn1 with SMTP id mn1sf30829321wic.1 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=nPog4QtII0QGLvWJ0mcYaPr9hv71T+Z0ggyahFE38cc=; b=SB0T7zxFWZCOyfHnXw3IhH6MuuVAMmqegpVKMFWRfRuSypG6nmeWybDQEJTGWHx1al aH5CdTnArV/bEKvUJN473w/27XL+oz5FBadDYSk2F8PBfB9zs1h+j27U91krlC9SD3lR Moh3NoYfNgbG81ozziuV6xxzGgqpYweTQ9sL/EoWeHOwM5ueHpzSZvUz2m4j84oVx/CX Zk40WKe+MqbDABnEtPXaURN/N4RlxNKZ9gPsWUsndQu8Es0lglFyQGwkf3cJ9EOLb1fA kxtSfwOLJsagqr7nteYhpbigr/ZXB4jNaFU2/s5b07GB+JC59x8vxZPJ3vSipgzpTYGF tGgA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6JZCsWqwVDp30PUx6qbioL0I8qhJAnDI4CvQRGsCyJkBYLQdNcTd1dFiRzRsT514qN5yu X-Received: by 10.112.169.34 with SMTP id ab2mr2742852lbc.23.1443400539113; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.180.102.98 with SMTP id fn2ls463060wib.31.canary; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.9.97 with SMTP id y1mr21999009wja.84.1443400538247; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id el1si18857777wid.0.2015.09.27.17.35.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of andrewtomazos@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::232; Original-Received: by wicfx3 with SMTP id fx3so83279401wic.1 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.203.5 with SMTP id km5mr13543642wjc.52.1443400538158; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.28.73.137 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:35:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: andrewtomazos@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of andrewtomazos@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=andrewtomazos@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:20882 Archived-At: --047d7bae4532587d310520c3e00a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Ville Voutilainen < ville.voutilainen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 28 September 2015 at 01:44, Andrew Tomazos > wrote: > > I'm not so sure. 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On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Ville Voutilainen &l= t;ville.vo= utilainen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 September 2015 at 01:44, Andrew Tomazos <andrewtomazos@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not so sure.=C2=A0 I think the locale is set usually globally/= statefully,
> right?=C2=A0 So dates, currency delimiters etc are not set and transla= ted on a
> per-string-literal basis - and therefore out-of-scope for per-string-l= iteral
> formatting.
> Admittedly I don't know a lot about locales.=C2=A0 Would need to d= o some further
> research if this proposal was pursued.


That seems to assume that std::locales and their associated facets w= ould be used
for localization, which is a bold assumption.

I think= what would be needed is a survey of current processes/techniques/ needs fo= r translation/internationalization/localization and then to make sure the p= roposal is compatible with them.

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