220 19885 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Rodr=C3=ADguez_Ibeas?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: default arguments Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:25:11 +0100 Lines: 61 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <1e7b94e7-364a-419d-9b12-6706ddef0fef@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fe51e4a3de3051d9355ba X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439893524 19411 80.91.229.3 (18 Aug 2015 10:25:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:25:24 +0000 (UTC) To: "std-proposals@isocpp.org" Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBDIIVO6GQULBBCEQZSXAKGQEY2KVK7I@isocpp.org Tue Aug 18 12:25:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f72.google.com ([209.85.218.72]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRe4w-0005AO-0Q for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:25:14 +0200 Original-Received: by oifo84 with SMTP id o84sf273044934oif.3 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=wjkeapq6r0oao3WRsQFyW6uxEletilYBUvn0yoOF1BE=; b=XAkFNXbXwH/+M+RZA+lXcMcOPa65L3Eg1wJUrWrBv48ifwsEOf/qPUfF6ItZxQK3vq hyakuuUf0WjJMwTqxJIwhJmZrGup2zvuIcjFZ2aJ8D25BE6fWQ8n8Gp8HIxVpv8W2mYz vf5QtqsCzd35GBSiit6/6KNfS8GfOeys69l7AukTnMbop04L78abmNaBN1NN8+FJlx5c kcZlIfV1LaoPo3V+kFcDonbPFtVXwk6Apm1XZ8IZgmxgQ58CUiDUHvvfiX0gionNdVLj SxTYCvD36jo3gxNPN+mXRebh+pSpYwRmG5hmvpbNt/0PFN9gDGJweYLW5oTjvpNlGbSv k/Lw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQljGtFA6Zc/ITDUHJXd7OcwRHh5y5FOPm4nyxKCAngXA5KSLh3Gs21auxP4XRsS4D2jT6bJ X-Received: by 10.107.17.84 with SMTP id z81mr5243346ioi.5.1439893512991; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.107.170.97 with SMTP id t94ls1698809ioe.75.gmail; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.43.137 with SMTP id w9mr19462798igl.30.1439893512394; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-io0-x22a.google.com (mail-io0-x22a.google.com. [2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28si11855655ioh.197.2015.08.18.03.25.12 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dribeas@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a; Original-Received: by iodv127 with SMTP id v127so167653052iod.3 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.148.8 with SMTP id w8mr7557883iod.116.1439893511877; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Sender: dribeas@gmail.com Original-Received: by 10.107.192.131 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:25:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1e7b94e7-364a-419d-9b12-6706ddef0fef@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: dibeas@ieee.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dribeas@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dribeas@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:19885 Archived-At: --001a113fe51e4a3de3051d9355ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Arthur Tchaikovsky wrote: > I gotta be honest with you Johann, I simply don't buy it. > And index notion looks anything but elegant solution. That is my opinion > of course. > > You might not find it elegant, but it is a feature that has been present in C for some time (to initialize objects) so there is prior art. It is also tested and the shortcomings are known --at least for initialization, which is not really the same as defaulting arguments to functions or constructors. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. --001a113fe51e4a3de3051d9355ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Arthur Tchaikovsky = <atch.cpp@gmail.= com> wrote:
I gotta be honest with you Johann, I simply don't buy it.
And inde= x notion looks anything but elegant solution. That is my opinion of course.=

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You =C2=A0might not find i= t elegant, but it is a feature that has been present in C for some time (to= initialize objects) so there is prior art. It is also tested and the short= comings are known --at least for initialization, which is not really the sa= me as defaulting arguments to functions or constructors.
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