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On 4 August 2015 at 18:40, Matthew Woehlke <mwoehlke.floss@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Properly represented"? You want things to just happen, without doing any work?
> Define "work". If you mean it in the absolute general sense of any sort
> of effort at all, regardless of relevance to the C++ standards process,
> than I am confident that's not what Denis means. If you mean work
> directly related to a C++ proposal... then... yes!

Fine, then everybody should understand that mere wanting of things to happen
rarely leads into any fruition.

> Note that Denis multiple times suggested willingness to exchange effort
> for money. He's not asking for "something for nothing", he's asking for

Ah, yes, he started talking about that after his other falsehoods were
dismissed.

> a system that allows non-experts to have a way to contribute by paying
> in some currency other than having to personally become language experts
> and first tier participants in the committee. (Hence the court analogy,
> which I think is apt.)

Feel free to use http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/tag/c++
for that. Or sponsor the C++ Foundation, they provide financial assistance
for paper authors for important papers. Probably not specifically for personal
pet peeves, because voting by currency on what would get discussed and/or
adopted is going to meet very justified opposition.

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