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Stop the pretense. > > Oh, thanks. It's nice that you know what's pretense and what's not. If > you wanted > to ensure me you don't know what you're talking about, you accomplished that > goal splendidly. > > > The very next WG21 meeting is being held this October at the absurd location > > of Kona, Hawaii. This is 5000 miles from New York, 7,400 miles from Berlin, > > and 2400 miles from San Francisco. > > Yes, it's there because there's a host willing to organize a > face-to-face meeting > there. > > > Of course, it would be too rushed to arrange this as a fly-in and fly-out > > 2-3 day event. If that were the case, it might as well be held in > > Bentonville, AR, in a non-descript WalMart office building. To allow work to > > get done, it's going to be a leisurely occasion of 5 nights and 6 days. This > > Yes, it's very leisurely indeed to begin working at 8am every morning and work > until 5pm, every day. I only attended one meeting in 2003 and two in 2014. I can't remember a single day finishing that early. Most finished 19hs, sometimes 20hs...and one day 23hs! Yes, from the morning. One of them was my first time in Switzerland, I had time to visit nothing. > > > Apparently, all of this must happen 2-3 times per year, because otherwise > > it's impossible to advance the language. > > We're not saying it's impossible to advance the language otherwise. However, > we do know that it's more efficient to have 2-3 face-to-face meetings annually > than work remotely, because we'll get everybody in the same venue in the > same time zone. > > > But of course, that would make sense if you wanted teleconferencing. 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El 2/8/2015 21:11, "Ville Voutilainen" <ville.voutilainen@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:=
>
> On 3 August 2015 at 02:44, denis bider <isocppgroup@denisbider.com> wrote:
> > Oh, come on guys. Stop the pretense.
>
> Oh, thanks. It's nice that you know what's pretense and what&#= 39;s not. If
> you wanted
> to ensure me you don't know what you're talking about, you acc= omplished that
> goal splendidly.
>
> > The very next WG21 meeting is being held this October at the absu= rd location
> > of Kona, Hawaii. This is 5000 miles from New York, 7,400 miles fr= om Berlin,
> > and 2400 miles from San Francisco.
>
> Yes, it's there because there's a host willing to organize a > face-to-face meeting
> there.
>
> > Of course, it would be too rushed to arrange this as a fly-in and= fly-out
> > 2-3 day event. If that were the case, it might as well be held in=
> > Bentonville, AR, in a non-descript WalMart office building. To al= low work to
> > get done, it's going to be a leisurely occasion of 5 nights a= nd 6 days. This
>
> Yes, it's very leisurely indeed to begin working at 8am every morn= ing and work
> until 5pm, every day.

I only attended one meeting in 2003 and two in 2014. I can&#= 39;t remember a single day finishing that early. Most finished 19hs, someti= mes 20hs...and one day 23hs! Yes, from the morning.
One of them was my first time in Switzerland, I had time to visit nothing.<= br>

>
> > Apparently, all of this must happen 2-3 times per year, because o= therwise
> > it's impossible to advance the language.
>
> We're not saying it's impossible to advance the language other= wise. However,
> we do know that it's more efficient to have 2-3 face-to-face meeti= ngs annually
> than work remotely, because we'll get everybody in the same venue = in the
> same time zone.
>
> > But of course, that would make sense if you wanted teleconferenci= ng. As
> > opposed to a week in Hawaii.
>
> If you're so concerned about "second-class citizens", fe= el free to tell me which
> of us get to attend those teleconferences in the middle of the night.<= br> > See, there's
> that minor issue, time zones.
>
> --
>
> ---
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