220 19282 <3738608.WBNOfLZSsY@tjmaciei-mobl4> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thiago Macieira Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: Overloading std::begin and std::end for std::pair Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:40:23 -0700 Lines: 28 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <3738608.WBNOfLZSsY@tjmaciei-mobl4> References: <012fd35d-96fd-4775-835e-2105176c4f97@isocpp.org> <2538311b-63f0-4242-b826-3d115439de78@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437846035 12274 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2015 17:40:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:40:35 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCB4TK757YBRBCUUZ6WQKGQEEAXRSIA@isocpp.org Sat Jul 25 19:40:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f200.google.com ([209.85.212.200]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJ3Qx-0003IV-Vx for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:40:28 +0200 Original-Received: by wicmm11 with SMTP id mm11sf16016064wic.3 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=Hv6nhUyXhhGxwioPgBYXH7i4TGYcb5Uk4v3G2WQd5Yo=; b=CZDUis7nFEoqRr8siXA4S/BVjrGCWi3u07eJkJMO+oLBXIEr9S5nfcahTgRh6qkVnd xcyPyptHc0dTLmEzch8nTi0JEjYcQc7C0qXc96pbfupd8bKkWFsSC9vWg3TTxAcA4MFJ YrosbwcEUBH9hqt89zOEA1mi/HGyysc0VDOEH92H3eXksSc19fI6tIAEhEsbW9m88a8z wQAYCqIxDE0uOskp/p3/pBYbZdWjsE00NsFMBmthCcbTPVF+1OWkf2cGR+QGALQetmI5 Uqss1TxbhUFJXLGlaOSBmWPTA3ikCnX8gKgPJIbuIx6IMYVY2qQTNj4lKL7bkKXJBHIl c2Ag= X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmp6ZSoyE8h1ZCLBYhKeWhXKT/kpWBrrijJ8MekJSJeKSfZOkjMsBHZd6PaeTh5aXfOKrUY X-Received: by 10.152.87.46 with SMTP id u14mr6114575laz.5.1437846027291; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.180.73.176 with SMTP id m16ls364230wiv.49.gmail; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.78.73 with SMTP id z9mr8159224wiw.64.1437846025744; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from gondolin.macieira.info (gondolin.macieira.info. [78.47.120.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x2si21406298wju.175.2015.07.25.10.40.25 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 78.47.120.188 as permitted sender) client-ip=78.47.120.188; Original-Received: from tjmaciei-mobl4.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2601:1c0:5803:81c9:a88d:786e:676b:dda3]) by gondolin.macieira.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F28811B496 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: KMail/4.14.9 (Linux/4.0.5-3-desktop; KDE/4.14.9; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <2538311b-63f0-4242-b826-3d115439de78@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: thiago@macieira.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 78.47.120.188 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=thiago@macieira.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:19282 Archived-At: On Saturday 25 July 2015 07:10:18 Vlad from Moscow wrote: > A similar situation takes place with std::pair. There is a basic type that > is used to store valid ranges. Those two sentences are true but the latter does not imply that std::pair is that type. A range is a pair of iterators. But any pair of iterators does not make a range. The problem is that a pair is, on itself, a container and could be iterated on. I don't have a problem in providing a way to iterate over a pair of iterators as a range. Just don't mess with std::pair. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .