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How is it related to std:;pair?! You can with the same success use 
iterators in any algorithm that do not make a range and what? Do you 
suggest not to use algorithms?

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 10:29:23 PM UTC+3, T. C. wrote:
>
> They existed in an earlier C++0x draft, and were removed by that LWG issue 
> before C++11 was published.
>
> Not all pairs of iterators are ranges. Not even all pairs of iterators 
> returned by functions in the standard library are ranges,
> as your own code with minmax_element demonstrates.
>
> Besides, a range class that wraps a pair of iterators is trivial to 
> implement.
>
> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4, Vlad from Moscow wrote:
>>
>> There is nothing said about introducing functions std::begin and std:;end 
>> for std::pair.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:52:23 PM UTC+3, T. C. wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/lwg-defects.html#1381
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4, Vlad from Moscow wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And one more example :)
>>>>
>>>> #include <iostream>
>>>> #include <utility>
>>>> #include <vector>
>>>> #include <algorithm>
>>>> #include <iterator>
>>>>
>>>> namespace std
>>>> {    
>>>> template <class Iterator>
>>>> Iterator begin( const std::pair<Iterator, Iterator> &p )
>>>> {
>>>>     return p.first;
>>>> }
>>>> template <class Iterator>
>>>> Iterator end( const std::pair<Iterator, Iterator> &p )
>>>> {
>>>>     return p.second;
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>> int main()
>>>> {
>>>>     std::vector<int> v = { 3, 4, 0, 5, 1, 6, 9, 7, 8 };
>>>>     
>>>>     for ( auto x : v ) std::cout << x << ' ';
>>>>     std::cout << std::endl;
>>>>     auto p = std::minmax_element( v.begin(), v.end() );
>>>>     
>>>>     if ( std::distance( v.begin(), p.second ) < std::distance( 
>>>> v.begin(), p.first ) )
>>>>     {
>>>>         std::swap( p.first, p.second );
>>>>     }        
>>>>     for ( auto x : p ) std::cout << x << ' ';
>>>>     std::cout << std::endl;
>>>> }    
>>>>
>>>> The program output is
>>>>
>>>> 3 4 0 5 1 6 9 7 8 
>>>> 0 5 1 6
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:57:38 PM UTC+3, Vlad from Moscow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another example
>>>>>
>>>>> #include <iostream>
>>>>> #include <utility>
>>>>> #include <vector>
>>>>>
>>>>> namespace std
>>>>> {    
>>>>>
>>>>> template <class Iterator>
>>>>> Iterator begin( const std::pair<Iterator, Iterator> &p )
>>>>> {
>>>>>     return p.first;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> template <class Iterator>
>>>>> Iterator end( const std::pair<Iterator, Iterator> &p )
>>>>> {
>>>>>     return p.second;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> int main()
>>>>> {
>>>>>     std::vector<int> v = { 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 };
>>>>>     
>>>>>     for ( auto x : std::make_pair( v.begin(), v.end() ) ) std::cout << 
>>>>> x << ' ';
>>>>>     std::cout << std::endl;
>>>>>     
>>>>>     for ( auto x : std::make_pair( v.rbegin(), v.rend() ) ) std::cout 
>>>>> << x << ' ';
>>>>>     std::cout << std::endl;
>>>>> }    
>>>>>
>>>>> The program output is
>>>>>
>>>>> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 
>>>>> 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!:)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:36:46 PM UTC+3, Vlad from Moscow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to  suggest very simple and at the same time very useful  
>>>>>> overloaded functions std::begin and std::end for standard class std::pair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is a demonstrative program of the idea
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #include <iostream>
>>>>>> #include <utility>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> namespace std
>>>>>> {    
>>>>>> template <class Iterator>
>>>>>> Iterator begin( const std::pair<Iterator, Iterator> &p )
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>     return p.first;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> template <class Iterator>
>>>>>> Iterator end( const std::pair<Iterator, Iterator> &p )
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>     return p.second;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>     int a[] = { 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 };
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>     for ( auto x : std::make_pair( a + 3, a + 7 ) ) std::cout << x << 
>>>>>> ' ';
>>>>>>     std::cout << std::endl;
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>     int b[][3] = { { 1, 2, 3 }, { 4, 5, 6 } };
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>     for ( auto x : std::make_pair( b[0] + 1, b[1] + 2 ) ) std::cout 
>>>>>> << x << ' ';
>>>>>>     std::cout << std::endl;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The program output is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3 4 5 6 
>>>>>> 2 3 4 5    
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">How is it related to std:;pair?! You can with the same suc=
cess use iterators in any algorithm that do not make a range and what? Do y=
ou suggest not to use algorithms?<br><br>On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 10:2=
9:23 PM UTC+3, T. C. wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 2=
04); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Th=
ey existed in an earlier C++0x draft, and were removed by that LWG issue be=
fore C++11 was published.<div><br></div><div>Not all pairs of iterators are=
 ranges. Not even all pairs of iterators returned by functions in the stand=
ard library are ranges,</div><div>as your own code with minmax_element demo=
nstrates.</div><div><br></div><div>Besides, a range class that wraps a pair=
 of iterators is trivial to implement.</div><div><br>On Thursday, July 23, =
2015 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4, Vlad from Moscow wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-=
color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid=
;"><div dir=3D"ltr">There is nothing said about introducing functions std::=
begin and std:;end for std::pair.<br><br>On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:52=
:23 PM UTC+3, T. C. wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 20=
4); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v><a onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%=
2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Flwg-defects.html%231381=
\46sa\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNGCnw-GAV0E1QTFZv90wIFhv-vtdQ&#39;;retur=
n true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%=
2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Flwg-defects.html%231381=
\46sa\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNGCnw-GAV0E1QTFZv90wIFhv-vtdQ&#39;;retur=
n true;" href=3D"http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/lwg-defects.ht=
ml#1381" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc=
22/wg21/docs/lwg-defects.html#1381</a></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></=
div><div>On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4, Vlad from Moscow w=
rote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width=
: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>And one more exampl=
e :)</div><div><br></div><div>#include &lt;iostream&gt;<br>#include &lt;uti=
lity&gt;<br>#include &lt;vector&gt;<br>#include &lt;algorithm&gt;<br>#inclu=
de &lt;iterator&gt;</div><div><br></div><div>namespace std<br>{=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 <br>template &lt;class Iterator&gt;<br>Iterator begin( const std::pa=
ir&lt;Iterator, Iterator&gt; &amp;p )<br>{<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 return p.f=
irst;<br>}</div><div>template &lt;class Iterator&gt;<br>Iterator end( const=
 std::pair&lt;Iterator, Iterator&gt; &amp;p )<br>{<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 re=
turn p.second;<br>}<br>}</div><div>int main()<br>{<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 st=
d::vector&lt;int&gt; v =3D { 3, 4, 0, 5, 1, 6, 9, 7, 8 };<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for ( auto x : v ) std::cout &lt;&lt; x &lt;&=
lt; &#39; &#39;;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 std::cout &lt;&lt; std::endl;</div><=
div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 auto p =3D std::minmax_element( v.begin(), v.end() )=
;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 if ( std::distance( v.begin(=
), p.second ) &lt; std::distance( v.begin(), p.first ) )<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 {<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 std::swap( p.first, p.s=
econd );<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 }=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for ( auto x : p ) std::cout &lt;&lt; x &lt;&=
lt; &#39; &#39;;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 std::cout &lt;&lt; std::endl;<br></d=
iv><div>}=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br><br></div><div>The program output is</div><=
div><br></div><div>3 4 0 5 1 6 9 7 8 <br>0 5 1 6</div><div><br>On Thursday,=
 July 23, 2015 at 8:57:38 PM UTC+3, Vlad from Moscow wrote:</div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1=
ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-l=
eft-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Another example</div><div><br></di=
v><div>#include &lt;iostream&gt;<br>#include &lt;utility&gt;<br>#include &l=
t;vector&gt;</div><div><br></div><div>namespace std<br>{=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
<br></div><div><br></div><div>template &lt;class Iterator&gt;<br>Iterator b=
egin( const std::pair&lt;Iterator, Iterator&gt; &amp;p )<br>{<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 return p.first;<br>}</div><div><br></div><div>template &lt;class =
Iterator&gt;<br>Iterator end( const std::pair&lt;Iterator, Iterator&gt; &am=
p;p )<br>{<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 return p.second;<br>}<br></div><div><br></=
div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>int main()<br>{<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 s=
td::vector&lt;int&gt; v =3D { 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 };<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for ( auto x : std::make_pair( v.begin(), =
v.end() ) ) std::cout &lt;&lt; x &lt;&lt; &#39; &#39;;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 std::cout &lt;&lt; std::endl;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 for ( auto x : std::make_pair( v.rbegin(), v.rend() ) ) std::cout &lt;&=
lt; x &lt;&lt; &#39; &#39;;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 std::cout &lt;&lt; std::e=
ndl;</div><div>}=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>The progra=
m output is</div><div><br></div><div>0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 <br>9 8 7 6 5 4 3 =
2 1 0</div><div><br></div><div>Enjoy!:)<br><br>On Thursday, July 23, 2015 a=
t 8:36:46 PM UTC+3, Vlad from Moscow wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-=
color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid=
;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;d like to =C2=A0suggest very simple and=C2=
=A0at the same time very useful=C2=A0 overloaded functions std::begin and s=
td::end for standard class std::pair.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is a de=
monstrative program of the idea</div><div><br></div><div>#include &lt;iostr=
eam&gt;</div><div>#include &lt;utility&gt;</div><div><br></div><div>namespa=
ce std<br>{=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>template &lt;class Iterator&gt;<br>Iterat=
or begin( const std::pair&lt;Iterator, Iterator&gt; &amp;p )<br>{<br>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 return p.first;<br>}</div><div>template &lt;class Iterator&gt;=
<br>Iterator end( const std::pair&lt;Iterator, Iterator&gt; &amp;p )<br>{<b=
r>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 return p.second;<br>}<br>}</div><div><br></div><div>in=
t main()<br>{<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 int a[] =3D { 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8=
, 9 };<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for ( auto x : std::mak=
e_pair( a + 3, a + 7 ) ) std::cout &lt;&lt; x &lt;&lt; &#39; &#39;;<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 std::cout &lt;&lt; std::endl;</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 int b[][3] =3D { { 1, 2, 3 }, { 4, 5, 6 } };</=
div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for ( auto x : std:=
:make_pair( b[0] + 1, b[1] + 2 ) ) std::cout &lt;&lt; x &lt;&lt; &#39; &#39=
;;<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 std::cout &lt;&lt; std::endl;<br>}</div><div><br><=
/div><div>The program output is</div><div><br></div><div>3 4 5 6 <br>2 3 4 =
5=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><=
/blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div><=
/blockquote></div>

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