220 19164 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthew Woehlke Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Point class Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:08:41 -0400 Lines: 30 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437584940 20164 80.91.229.3 (22 Jul 2015 17:09:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:09:00 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC37LBFWUIFBBIU4X6WQKGQE4C6NDQA@isocpp.org Wed Jul 22 19:08:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-lb0-f199.google.com ([209.85.217.199]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHxVj-0003t7-L2 for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:08:51 +0200 Original-Received: by lbcjf8 with SMTP id jf8sf59218953lbc.0 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:date:lines:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:user-agent:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=zFx1rmiYVqw+xDEK5Rf8mwRpStoBU9lEn5PJwuRwmls=; b=FoxlCWf6zomB2s8WgTChIx7DuqNefu1kFDVu/8UIq5OyEq9k4CrzT3e4ucpO7jlXz2 2xqyKCWUChz3oqzekdpSzDT125zl2lVczmeRkXtinYe3k5j/KgWB5FBdG4RAdEeffMQS +a5ETGRKPzNf9JmB4nMd+q4h2DEdvdOcHR/W7CswWYY+q+7L6O4M7TglBnxjyPwjozvQ ArxBF1rfcRTb8U/cwo7iEZZvRRZyDwdS/cfkRd7tIZthBPMRZmLKC+QtCuhf8GAH1mBB hrr826YXrovR/GqvXL9sLa5rZd6CaqLrkBD+REwM+sBETmAQ9M5LAflZEbyRWSTCXp70 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKpXZirBjkrGFJ2WMncKSKC9HcgwyOkTj03lbR4mp8OgunwFt1YZxzy3EC7BCnIpl8Eu/n X-Received: by 10.112.138.2 with SMTP id qm2mr1620841lbb.19.1437584931221; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.152.28.100 with SMTP id a4ls125589lah.52.gmail; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.28.105 with SMTP id a9mr3391192lah.9.1437584929730; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org. [80.91.229.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dc7si1709404lad.31.2015.07.22.10.08.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=80.91.229.3; Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHxVg-0003rP-Ae for std-proposals@isocpp.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:08:48 +0200 Original-Received: from tripoint.kitware.com ([66.194.253.20]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:08:48 +0200 Original-Received: from mwoehlke.floss by tripoint.kitware.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:08:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: tripoint.kitware.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: mwoehlke.floss@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:19164 Archived-At: On 2015-07-22 12:53, David Haim wrote: > about the Eigen class: > well, this is a philosophical question. isn't C++11 borrows heavily from > boost type_traits and thread library? didn't we already have some platforms > and libraries with Thread class in them? there are many I can think of. > MFC is one of them (for windows). > isn't C++17 is going to borrow heavily from boost networking library and > filesystem library? > does the fact that something already exists outside the standard is enough > to cancel it's standardization? I think the opposite. the fact there there > are many platforms and libraries outside that implement Point class only > proves its necessity. I don't disagree; I'm just concerned with finding the right balance of features that will make a point class sufficiently useful to make real inroads at replacing existing libraries. You can also take that another way... should Eigen be standardized? -- Matthew -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .