220 18956 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Louis Dionne Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: N3599 for C++17 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 22:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Lines: 106 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <55997D73.8020808@gmx.net> <68a61cfb-3ce8-4a9b-abb9-f3bbb47a2611@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6358_966885803.1436159192733" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436159196 23928 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2015 05:06:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 05:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: b17c0de@gmail.com To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCV3HSWWRMMRBWMZ5CWAKGQEX76PIXI@isocpp.org Mon Jul 06 07:06:36 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ig0-f198.google.com ([209.85.213.198]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBybz-0000oh-BT for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:06:35 +0200 Original-Received: by igcsj18 with SMTP id sj18sf330952949igc.2 for ; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 22:06:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=vOj63WZPiqRzHLKKvB/nHr1bwlayf2qlpNU+7cYYNZk=; b=ZCX+Laxm+w4oiclOIla7q7BlslGz/uFU6zYpkzcOOkmVW302mNepqqU45tdH8TeINl IeEjXuaKAR56H/QnMQqpHb/HtPGImsq7L0WUwri8VE05PMMz6fHY0nGgbMlel3izuNRg IbyBBCJjwydpn1DNM4XRg5ErPKBLUkDe7BKx55kZ1Osz6dbg0m3THktYxXlfhIDMRjME IoDXRDgq3bW7maNogonYD9oKiUn1sfJw7FeQlaDXTkMoFTmX82Y2TMLDtK3OkjraEg9o fH27c7y+Qz8ozVS4eqhoskcmo/jmoZC4pKRqwPvTma2l0zD9irEXYhpV/IZxKj7khGxD zgPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=vOj63WZPiqRzHLKKvB/nHr1bwlayf2qlpNU+7cYYNZk=; b=T2GVeP8CBmCPTYNMSwirzPe7mlHOxrA+LFYLgg+Z4pR9HKGVpmCOq2T18J48mNZwBT bfEDz9F+lIfj8SP8RejTnGPmhKtGv1si0fMf+Iaersm22IJigMrHPHGTCd1DpiWa10LE OeA9QVHQQ+Z1l7WSkWNoOwKd4OzTy/1oTTOagpT3sUuzeOIEkk8F/3HRFtewavo48CEO g/v3IrZEy7YgSCpqVEvivNrB9Dl3hv9de8j4mX4i+YqkJTlHPxgVWYNidW+KS/+ZicnR /Q5dvo7MhNckMZEagDV+9pCOqYv3TfmQ2Dul13eg6juBbzhEy0Vext1JNrfdn5RlIuBG cFNA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl8rL+IC1n7aw1D59A2/fmAJVSgkgN+3Jka0v1/USEAl1KpZey4dy5MnFCoiD4vheyynkDo X-Received: by 10.50.50.161 with SMTP id d1mr6025292igo.6.1436159194238; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 22:06:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.140.90.50 with SMTP id w47ls2802985qgd.32.gmail; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.101.22 with SMTP id t22mr557541qge.32.1436159193264; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <68a61cfb-3ce8-4a9b-abb9-f3bbb47a2611@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: ldionne.2@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: std-proposals@isocpp.org X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:18956 Archived-At: ------=_Part_6358_966885803.1436159192733 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6359_440934172.1436159192733" ------=_Part_6359_440934172.1436159192733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 We absolutely need templated string literals, and IMHO we don't need additional machinery for compile-time string processing. I would personally take the proposal as-is. We will then implement additional machinery as needed on a per-library basis. Louis On Sunday, 5 July 2015 21:30:23 UTC+2, b17...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks for the link. Does anyone know the specifics of "Revise with > additional machinery for compile time string processing" or why people were > otherwise against the original proposal? > > On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 8:54:47 PM UTC+2, Jens Maurer wrote: >> >> On 07/05/2015 10:37 AM, b17...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Hi, >> > What ever happened to N3599? As I understand it, it was proposed for >> inclusion in C++14. Does anyone know why it didn't get included? >> >> See here: >> >> http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-active.html#66 >> >> I'd guess you should talk to Smith and Vandevoorde to see whether >> they've come up with a revised version. >> >> Jens >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. 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We absolutely need templated string literals, and IMH= O we don't need additional machinery for compile-time
string proc= essing. I would personally take the proposal as-is. We will then implement = additional machinery as
needed on a per-library basis.
=
Louis


On Sunday, 5 July 2015 21:30:23 UTC+2, b1= 7...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the link. Does anyone know the specifics of "Revise wit= h additional machinery for compile time string processing" or why people we= re otherwise against the original proposal?

On Sunday, July 5, 2015= at 8:54:47 PM UTC+2, Jens Maurer wrote:
On 07/05/2015 10:37 AM, b17...@gmail.com wrote= :
> Hi,
> What ever happened to N3599? As I understand it, it was proposed f= or inclusion in C++14. Does anyone know why it didn't get included?

See here:

http://cplusplus.github.io/EWG/ewg-active.html#66

I'd guess you should talk to Smith and Vandevoorde to see whether
they've come up with a revised version.

Jens

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