220 17340 <1797611.7tArXeoMWd@tjmaciei-mobl4> article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thiago Macieira Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: noexcept(auto) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:35:11 -0700 Lines: 42 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <1797611.7tArXeoMWd@tjmaciei-mobl4> References: <1657285.u9ziYB6mWs@tjmaciei-mobl4> <201504060232.40071.marc.mutz@kdab.com> <69629eca-4ed0-4cab-9cf0-1c7df6dba0f5@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428939328 1606 80.91.229.3 (13 Apr 2015 15:35:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: std-proposals@isocpp.org To: Olaf van der Spek Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCB4TK757YBRBMWEV6UQKGQEVXCL4ZQ@isocpp.org Mon Apr 13 17:35:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-lb0-f198.google.com ([209.85.217.198]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YhgOJ-0005XQ-P6 for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:35:15 +0200 Original-Received: by lbbqq2 with SMTP id qq2sf18334308lbb.0 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=ll0yFpWy7j2B1BHbimTbypAkYC6JU/GMKVA9l2ptohM=; b=KZZR3/lOOZE3swomPIBXzzqj1cX500bhHUi2cGjDYh2VzY3waWlcmZMqeBVdTTWzXV 26OdiZTHlSqIpwGfeh/A5Ymy3+Bzbzg+wR6V9Ygr20K5JQVgkh/QeKV1aKMlPTE3ZWTM aLyatFGh9geVzOWTt2oYUFL/5AZR9y0+kZiPHTwSO35nBHSq/JpOwvO8GWlEtwXoOzrJ vlkWWJV9vK5z6tDRu3ujmDUhGhpN0uJvzyZN3/cKTGhEX4JxTpicYZVcnmZQ3TQmLTI7 9E0BKBvQKV1CJvV1lxvqePOT7U953xhhM3k8gPAGhfxezI+4aso5VurNoBAhFBqEaE51 X/mg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlKOcAd3qkjpQwxadefT6/bUFaeS+AXDmzojbXUoNcVfJ6LsUeR9ylP1bD23iysC36X+Bom X-Received: by 10.112.166.137 with SMTP id zg9mr2691546lbb.11.1428939315131; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.180.92.65 with SMTP id ck1ls456701wib.28.gmail; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.103.67 with SMTP id fu3mr29695686wjb.69.1428939314208; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from gondolin.macieira.info (gondolin.macieira.info. [2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id he3si14521357wib.114.2015.04.13.08.35.14 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3; Original-Received: from tjmaciei-mobl4.localnet (jfdmzpr03-ext.jf.intel.com [134.134.139.72]) by gondolin.macieira.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E78612C001; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: KMail/4.14.6 (Linux/3.19.3-1-desktop; KDE/4.14.6; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <69629eca-4ed0-4cab-9cf0-1c7df6dba0f5@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: thiago@macieira.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of thiago@macieira.org designates 2a01:4f8:d13:f81:21c:14ff:fe01:12a3 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=thiago@macieira.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:17340 Archived-At: On Monday 13 April 2015 03:15:33 Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 2:27:22 AM UTC+2, Marc Mutz wrote: > > 1. We use the noexcept operator because it is more convenient than using > > , esp. in the shared C++98/11 codebase that Qt still is, > > where > > every use of the header requires ifdef'ery (whereas noexcept is > > abstracted > > behind a function-like macro that gets centrally redefined to nothing > > if > > noexcept is not supported). > > What's stopping you from moving to C++11? Compiler support. Until someone convinces Microsoft to get a compiler that has C++11 to support Windows Embedded Compact 7 and 8, we can't do anything about it. Similarly for QNX 6.5 (compiler based on GCC 4.4). Note especially that any C++11 feature from the Standard Library are almost completely forbidden in Qt source code because there's no good way to detect when they are supported by the compiler / standard library combination. libstdc++ for example does not have a monotonically-increasing version number we could rely on. > IMO a big source of exceptions is new. Wouldn't it make sense to have a > noexcept new? I didn't get the question. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .