220 16858 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ville Voutilainen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Re: Comment on N4165, N4174 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 15:33:16 +0200 Lines: 34 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <8c9d5f60-8c76-4763-9da6-c159db1f3d80@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1425821613 14105 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2015 13:33:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hzj_jie@hotmail.com, Herb Sutter , bs@ms.com To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC5JHI7A7ALRBHE76GTQKGQELPRC4VI@isocpp.org Sun Mar 08 14:33:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ie0-f198.google.com ([209.85.223.198]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YUbKY-0002rj-D5 for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:33:18 +0100 Original-Received: by iecrp18 with SMTP id rp18sf116259437iec.0 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 06:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=nS+rzyMaN7swFPRXiBSU4cKCYKnQAUI3R5PMrwZWuG0=; b=ETc4rBWDcAiwwdTqwcqsLovMXJIYkFCI7bSHpf0r0r5rOqh3RBjhdNpkP+ZsLq7nig ZiVLouUpt6THsf/4bN9W3lCmwoBNJoxijKoRI016mOOzG04nmeLn4fWvo1HYXWWQuwm+ aMFDPaUkafAy0k9kP9yY+6r9fKtlyi1RGSF6BtqFmPMDJAtyiDwyMDi7dwii5ZUE8fqi fgDk2ZXhFTHGhLxzNftIBSFNBiJcFwSVlUri4/ZqYvO4K5cJCh9gzpwM8O3UMA8MBBa/ 1YAEtsO5kU63k4WFmvTNvBq8/wbm6QsPvHxd0G/33HCAzVhlRfnIMgKdJX4XAj64ZZeC L X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn4B1BuEVvWVhDTpRWwduwcxvE39kzbrN+Jd2EkxiTkxKyc/Op9YVCgePLicdkUr35ihdVz X-Received: by 10.182.80.7 with SMTP id n7mr22047735obx.10.1425821597061; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 06:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.107.132.193 with SMTP id o62ls732309ioi.94.gmail; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 06:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.137.135 with SMTP id t7mr2319382ioi.3.1425821596433; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 06:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com (mail-ie0-x22c.google.com. [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ww20si10113325icb.51.2015.03.08.06.33.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 08 Mar 2015 06:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c; Original-Received: by iecat20 with SMTP id at20so43202495iec.6 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 06:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.68.76 with SMTP id w12mr20268004ici.74.1425821596203; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 06:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.36.86.209 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Mar 2015 06:33:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: ville.voutilainen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ville.voutilainen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:16858 Archived-At: On 8 March 2015 at 14:50, Bret Kuhns wrote: >> 2. The doc does not mention the scenario when an inheritance or implicit >> conversion happened. i.e. > It seems to me the paper is perhaps too specific in its wording: >> x.f(y) means >> 1. First try x.f(y) =E2=80=93does x=E2=80=99s class have a member f? = If so try to use >> it >> 2. Then try f(x,y) =E2=80=93 is there a function f? If so, try to use= it >> 3. otherwise error > Saying "does x's class have a member f" unnecessarily constrains to the > immediate class type of x. Perhaps rephrasing it along the lines of "is f= a No problem, because [class.derived]/2 says "... Unless redeclared in the derived class, members of a base class are also considered to be members of the derived class. The base class members are said to be inherited by the derived class. Inherited members can be referred to in expressions in the same manner as other members of the derived class, unless their names are hidden or ambiguous (10.2)." --=20 ---=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposa= ls/. .