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[2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3si545158icr.30.2015.03.04.19.11.52 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Mar 2015 19:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of danielgutson@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236; Original-Received: by igkb16 with SMTP id b16so42517094igk.1 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 19:11:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.107.3.161 with SMTP id e33mr17793967ioi.65.1425525112512; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 19:11:52 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.36.56.70 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 19:11:52 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.36.56.70 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 19:11:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <78d58ab7-bc9a-48ad-8fa2-e789209e5a1a@isocpp.org> X-Original-Sender: danielgutson@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of danielgutson@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=danielgutson@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:16752 Archived-At: --001a113ebe5cf32992051081ed58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do your own proposal, but in any case I suggest you to do some prior work research and explain in what terms your work is different to what already exists. For example, I did it for you but IMHO you should still find out what happened with that proposal by reading the meeting minutes and base your strategy on that. El 05/03/2015 00:06, "Matthew Fioravante" escribi= =C3=B3: > > > On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:01:51 PM UTC-5, dgutson wrote: >> >> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4226.pdf >> > This proposal might solve the problem for a lot of scenarios but it > wouldn't work for me because its all or nothing. Freeing memory is > redundant but other destructor work such as syncing files is not. > > For example a logger object akin to std::cout I would want to be > absolutely sure is synced to disk when the program exits. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. > To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. > --=20 ---=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. 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Do your own proposal, but in any case I suggest you to do so= me prior work research and explain in what terms your work is different to = what already exists. For example, I did it for you but IMHO you should stil= l find out what happened with that proposal by reading the meeting minutes = and base your strategy on that.

El 05/03/2015 00:06, "Matthew Fioravante&qu= ot; <fmatthew5876@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:


On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:01:51 PM UTC-5,= dgutson wrote:

http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/w= g21/docs/papers/2014/n4226.pdf

This proposa= l might solve the problem for a lot of scenarios but it wouldn't work f= or me because its all or nothing. Freeing memory is redundant but other des= tructor work such as syncing files is not.

For exa= mple a logger object akin to std::cout I would want to be absolutely sure i= s synced to disk when the program exits.=C2=A0

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