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[2001:4d0:a302:1100::103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v5si9133834ici.9.2015.02.17.09.09.12 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:09:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ilja.j.honkonen@nasa.gov designates 2001:4d0:a302:1100::103 as permitted sender) client-ip=2001:4d0:a302:1100::103; Original-Received: from ndmsppt105.ndc.nasa.gov (ndmsppt105.ndc.nasa.gov [198.117.0.70]) by ndjsnpf03.ndc.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A6E2D8100; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:06:54 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from NDMSCHT104.ndc.nasa.gov (ndmscht104-pub.ndc.nasa.gov [198.117.0.204]) by ndmsppt105.ndc.nasa.gov (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t1HH9Bw3012777; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:09:11 -0600 Original-Received: from jeffs-mbp-2.home (173.66.118.47) by smtp02.ndc.nasa.gov (198.117.0.204) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:09:11 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: <36478d7e-8292-424d-9544-68de55ac0566@isocpp.org> X-Originating-IP: [173.66.118.47] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-17_07:2015-02-17,2015-02-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Original-Sender: ilja.j.honkonen@nasa.gov X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilja.j.honkonen@nasa.gov designates 2001:4d0:a302:1100::103 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ilja.j.honkonen@nasa.gov Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:16335 Archived-At: > So you want to add a language feature, just to avoid typing the keyword > "using?" That sounds like a massive waste of the committee's time. I don't know whether the ability to avoid typing the keyword double was a conscious decision (in K&R or before, after?), if it wasn't then I agree that this probably wouldn't be worth the apparently large effort, but if it was then similar reasoning might apply here. Ilja -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .