220 13726 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthew Woehlke Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Generic std::size, a la std::begin Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:57:04 -0400 Lines: 22 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <8808df5e-62c4-459d-acd9-00e63adb9476@isocpp.org> <20141004004445.GA8207@lenovo> <890596a6-4fe4-4fe4-b96b-0196aaac94cf@isocpp.org> <51161156-ee03-4662-bfcd-a990e6fe830d@isocpp.org> <861975ec-a57f-448b-9321-ef061226f265@isocpp.org> <1d95ed0b-2872-457a-80c4-c9c73182aed6@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412629049 24794 80.91.229.3 (6 Oct 2014 20:57:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:57:29 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBCO5FYHBU4ERBLMEZSQQKGQEWVPSROI@isocpp.org Mon Oct 06 22:57:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f69.google.com ([74.125.82.69]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFLL-0000HA-AK for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:57:19 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f69.google.com with SMTP id b13sf3281272wgh.0 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:57:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:date:lines:message-id:references :mime-version:user-agent:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=FrOIlg0g7rgzSZaz3d5sK8qFW0+W5IN/tL7iBudv4I4=; b=mYr8hZnMwlN4z9rv0UNrnpcigOIY+5lrhJi1cGJKkZgPYl5lkd8tWu9gdiVQmrBS1H NuNcyVPT1R1kBvyMZajKU87hf8lxO9V51DiFpuqgDLg+LaPLm6Spe+07FeiKhTDScU4Y MWwqWx8rgwo6ldecJypg4kU88FPeBSkw5OyKCDnqnTeD7XBbdFbA3mEh7JiGfCIanXS/ bVAhw8vdc4m+WYj/vfLSifOKGp407K6q7U4mleGryRmbLw5hs2/1/vJPkdKjKXnABPKx n2WftOlqvmECLWK/wrKznm9KAxyDXTyaV5BSQKqWI5lgnxTqJxzo2o40AcaunokNBLX5 5YQA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkALZuEme6cYyPlch8QTxr162gtpt9CbIc0YZMQarAmQP326E9jeRu1N3C1hJRt6nLxNcrS X-Received: by 10.181.25.234 with SMTP id it10mr2856796wid.1.1412629039012; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:57:19 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.152.198.201 with SMTP id je9ls514286lac.92.gmail; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:57:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.129.71 with SMTP id nu7mr5472061lbb.106.1412629036947; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org. [80.91.229.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id og9si25655348lbc.114.2014.10.06.13.57.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=80.91.229.3; Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFLI-0000G6-6b for std-proposals@isocpp.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:57:16 +0200 Original-Received: from cpe-67-240-43-113.nycap.res.rr.com ([67.240.43.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:57:16 +0200 Original-Received: from mw_triad by cpe-67-240-43-113.nycap.res.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:57:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-67-240-43-113.nycap.res.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: mw_triad@users.sourceforge.net X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:13726 Archived-At: On 2014-10-06 15:42, Nevin Liber wrote: > On 6 October 2014 14:40, Myriachan wrote: >> That's only because it is decades too late to change STL to rename the >> member functions count and max_count. > > So instead you propose to confuse users even more. That ship has sailed; > why should we now be deliberately inconsistent with it? The key word there is "change". I don't see what's to stop us fixing things by *adding* a count() method and deprecating size(). :-) -- Matthew -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .