220 13314 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ville Voutilainen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Tighten rules for virtual override keyword combination Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:33:56 +0300 Lines: 30 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <19267205-7e26-4c12-b9b4-f26ab2f99eb7@isocpp.org> <803262EF-88B4-40B0-AC9B-7C7356CDE56A@gmail.com> <54274B57.6040007@gmail.com> <542801A1.5040503@gmail.com> <86dea2ad-93c2-4cf1-9afc-99256c580a8d@isocpp.org> <4be2b4b5-7893-4408-9073-add2661ee58e@isocpp.org> <71c46372-b597-472f-a3f5-6119d7adf102@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412001251 4693 80.91.229.3 (29 Sep 2014 14:34:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 14:34:11 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC5JHI7A7ALRBVG3UWQQKGQEVYIVQXA@isocpp.org Mon Sep 29 16:34:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f70.google.com ([209.85.220.70]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XYc1W-0002tG-RJ for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:33:59 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f70.google.com with SMTP id bj1sf53789666pad.1 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9JTsRpBR5f9qRPpZqNv/Ud8QOeh0ht+J0IvZ3T4WkHM=; b=Nsys1NsOI9pltuGpNnmX7fq4uc1NuTw8cGw+Wv9n4nnUhujQgy2pRXvWpnvslHy4aj x30GZK89Q1KE9/fw5eqozsgKYWnTaC4agiT3ui6XJW/SmlMx2krwP26+12IPzv9h0ZYf RgjzS59l+pGwPrXSOJE/EI5SdNRmv4mT44gb9lwWFj3eR0PHcmPzQIfO4S7vkdaY5E/H jHgrEK1guI/Bex0oa6PMdKWpGGnG9BG+Cq9VoSpwCfhnKSzhQTlRPY53SJbTRmzHc7Hg xT3m1PGBYrsq4MB8K6x8kZIXLd4hDD3p+TMvBiT6B5NODsjmykCsPP7PFZ67OQ3OhfS0 iSVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmxmgfhC3cUNkXx1gf7HTfhjM9/FPFTnA9ACBOZg26/FMgb9xvsatFR6tk+PdTkyYoECzUY X-Received: by 10.66.222.100 with SMTP id ql4mr35214637pac.32.1412001237577; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.50.39.100 with SMTP id o4ls2204825igk.26.canary; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.92.129 with SMTP id t1mr45301571icm.59.1412001236833; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wa16si15080602icb.86.2014.09.29.07.33.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233; Original-Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id uq10so2380588igb.0 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.81.78 with SMTP id y14mr2206781ick.79.1412001236557; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.42.44.8 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:33:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: ville.voutilainen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ville.voutilainen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:13314 Archived-At: On 29 September 2014 17:13, Nevin Liber wrote: > On 29 September 2014 03:40, wrote: >> >> The only way to find out really what is bad style though is to debate it, >> kill any myths, and get feedback and find consensus. So that's what I'm >> trying to encourage here. > > > Except the debate doesn't belong here, as it doesn't involve the standard at > all, let alone a proposal. Correct for the style debate part, but to be fair, this thread started with a proposal to deprecate a combination of virtual and override. And while eg. I and Nevin may mostly agree on whether it's the standard's place to dictate style-related issues, I'm not convinced that's a unanimous stance on a wider scale. After all, if I trusted the committee to do exactly the things I consider wise, I could leave them unattended. :) -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .