220 12489 article Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ville Voutilainen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals Subject: Re: Placeholder literals Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:37:48 +0300 Lines: 22 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: References: <570663A9-F617-442F-9B48-5B6E7311AE72@gmail.com> <87sikl46bs.fsf@euclid.axiomatics.org> <8ece5f9b-0897-4fc8-b25d-e235091cb361@isocpp.org> Reply-To: std-proposals@isocpp.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408966679 8241 80.91.229.3 (25 Aug 2014 11:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:37:59 +0000 (UTC) To: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-X-From: std-proposals+bncBC5JHI7A7ALRBDOA5SPQKGQEKIFBKVY@isocpp.org Mon Aug 25 13:37:52 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-qa0-f70.google.com ([209.85.216.70]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XLsas-0002mm-Dq for gclcip-std-proposals@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:37:50 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-qa0-f70.google.com with SMTP id j7sf38729734qaq.9 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RJ6URCOP9g0uYZU4KE7Tk2CWt7WT19uito1vikmNtAM=; b=ObzLnn2EdWE3hKGfdqnh9/YC1JK+Nrj892BNltORISml/lJRm2Uo3M/iPN+5mBFPs3 PKO7vZgFD4QofaCv8ngenrfpVScKNf+GbENSF8Epfgsh5bJy9eQNhtTELA/bgu6Frwq7 JzMIpyMj1ike2XLKXM+kmzs5YNvn3LX/Yk5Bype+7rtN4KOZIFqg74O4tEPPh1xav6+v k08S84Y9Mlq4H4stvMlsGIZgui/1q+2cpclxXdgHfoYIhvgz/vOry5Afa3hMNLjXdKZ4 zYcrU19k10aG8GbzmHWM1jRBuzglZfn+JE+uZ1zEVBEqncIU0CrNvbvi/ukW6rwUuxJj /eqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkJZiQ9Vi5euv5RKgkB6+/L2rU0sXDcUNNVekMy12YtU7nTCoKLB+/16fcpd4O7ePQoeZcq X-Received: by 10.236.191.37 with SMTP id f25mr962943yhn.44.1408966669658; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: std-proposals@isocpp.org Original-Received: by 10.140.95.182 with SMTP id i51ls2033852qge.20.gmail; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.60.129 with SMTP id p1mr32865975qah.99.1408966668896; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail-qg0-x22b.google.com (mail-qg0-x22b.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22b]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s11si7792311qag.73.2014.08.25.04.37.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22b; Original-Received: by mail-qg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id a108so13171101qge.30 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.229.212.66 with SMTP id gr2mr33681649qcb.27.1408966668737; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.224.214.196 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:37:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: ville.voutilainen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ville.voutilainen@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ville.voutilainen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list std-proposals@isocpp.org; contact std-proposals+owners@isocpp.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 399137483710 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.c++.isocpp.proposals:12489 Archived-At: On 25 August 2014 14:23, Andrew Tomazos wrote: > Each of the three characters is used in an extremely long list of > programming languages. The @ character appears in every one of the x > billion email addresses in the world. Frankly, if your keyboard layout has > trouble with them, you need to file a bug against your keyboard layout. Well, you said "noone can argue that they are hard to type". That is patently false. Whether other languages use those characters and whether email addresses also use them doesn't change that. So, frankly, the potential issues with such characters are rather small, and the proposed use for them infrequent, but we can just as well stop pretending that they are obviously and clearly easy to type, since they aren't. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISO C++ Standard - Future Proposals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to std-proposals+unsubscribe@isocpp.org. To post to this group, send email to std-proposals@isocpp.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/group/std-proposals/. .